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The 'Compact' Version of Stable Diffusion 3 Is Generating Monstrous Human Bodies
- margorczynski 2y agoJust what I needed - some nightmare fuel before I go to sleep. But putting that aside - how is Stability still going? The VC money didn't dry out yet?
- turtleyacht 2y agoI've never seen a drawing book start from outside-in. We learn from the massed blocks, sketched curves, and mirrored proportions. The shapes, the skeleton, the muscles and skin.
- minimaxir 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40661990 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40661990
- elpocko 2y agoSD 1.5, on the the other hand, with the right checkpoints generates flawless human bodies. Older tech, much better results. Can finetuning fix this?
- haunter 2y agoThanks to the horseshoe [0] puritanism we will live in a safer world. It's all right, everything is all right, the struggle is finished. 0, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
- verticalscaler 2y ago[flagged]
- spacecadet 2y agoOh man do I mention Horseshoe alot... Its all extremism either way.
- oldpersonintx 2y ago[dead]
- tamimio 2y agoPlot twist: This isn't monstrous; it's just how AI envisions our future!
- amanzi 2y agoEven the good AI image generators struggle with details like fingers, and ear lobes, and other small but important details. Also, I found this quote interesting: "...Stability AI’s insistence on censoring adult content from SD3’s training data". Da Vinci figured this out hundreds of years ago, that to draw accurate pictures of humans, you need to understand the human body.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoYeah, it's especially ironic given how big a role nude modelling plays in art schools - it's fundamental to drawing, painting and sculpting.
- lifeisstillgood 2y agoI think the point is you need a naked human body - art classes use volunteers, midjourney presumably uses pornhub. I guess there is not a lot of naked human images out there that’s not porn.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoI imagine if they filtered out just the bits with some action going on, they'd still have approximately infinite feed of naked human bodies in all possible poses, which would be unoffensive out of context (or at least less offensive), and would be equivalent to art classes models for the purpose of training.
- hurrdurr57 2y agoThis would be doable, but expensive. You'd need to pay people to go through 10,000 pornographic images and manually blur out all of the fun bits.
- kergonath 2y agoIt really is not difficult to find breasts, bottoms and well proportioned limbs on the Internet. Even in underwear if you must because you’re afraid of something.
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 2y agoHas genAI for images hit an asymptote in the last year or so? Can't quite tell if things have gotten noticeably better since around when DALLE 3 was launched, it all looks about the same quality.
- elpocko 2y agoYeah, the mainstream stuff that you get to use while subjected to heavy surveillance and censorship is about the same. There's a whole universe underneath that, with no restrictions and basically unlimited creativity, if you have the required hardware.
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 2y agoAny pointers for where people working on the DIY side of image genai hang out? Any specific forums or subreddits?
- Der_Einzige 2y agoCivit.ai, discord, 4chan, and huggingface Unstable diffusion is where to go if you want to get into the NSFW community.
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- philipov 2y agoThis is what AI creativity looks like.
- A_D_E_P_T 2y agoAIs tend to do interesting things only by accident. But interesting accidents happen quite frequently. What SD3 has done here is "good art," as modernity defines the term: It's unique, it's technically adroit, and, most of all, it's shocking, thought provoking, unsettling. You can only wonder what went through the mind of the "artist" -- what it was trained on, how it attained such a strange result. This is at least gallery-tier if not worthy of MOMA, and I'm 100% serious about this.
- janice1999 2y agoI want to see artists create works by selectively removing concepts or elements from AI models. There have been many great works created by neuro-atypical artists or those with disabilities. Would it be similar?
- peterclary 2y ago“I have no mouth and I must scream” territory.
- peterhi 2y agoSo they looked at this and said "ship it"?
- __loam 2y agoStability has almost no money left.
- hurrdurr57 2y agoAnd their only hope is to get more investors to prop them up. So it kind of makes sense that they would go with a conservative model that was virtually immune to the AI porn / deepfake panic.
- bitwize 2y ago"Suppose you get a salamander. You know, a salamander can regrow its limbs if you cut them off. So all these nasty biology students do things like, they'll cut a limb of the salamander -- a hand, the arm off, just between the shoulder and the elbow, and at the same time, cut the same one between the elbow and the hand, flip around that segment, and re-sew it back on. Nasty thing to do to a salamander. What do you think you get? Does anybody here know? What you get is three elbows. It grows two new elbows to make up for the fact that the wrong thing is connected to the wrong thing." --Gerald Sussman, "We Really Don't Know How To Compute!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB5TrK7A4pI&t=2m49s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB5TrK7A4pI&t=2m49s) These images look like someone spliced salamander regeneration DNA into a human, cut them into many pieces, and connected the wrong thing to the wrong thing all over the place. Maybe that's what the AI wants to do to us, AM style (I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream)?
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- SebFender 2y agoI still don't understand the interest in these capabilities. Makes me think of many kids in the 80's playing around with synths - most of them work on banks now ; )
- smitty1e 2y agoCaricature works, but I maintain a visceral disklike for seeing the human form distorted in imagery. Cur that noise out.
- FpUser 2y agoLove it