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> Russian banks went down en masse Huh? In what world? > the Russian narrative Dont say such things after saying stuff like you just did above. You people li

by zrn900 2y ago

> Russian banks went down en masse Huh? In what world? > the Russian narrative Dont say such things after saying stuff like you just did above. You people live in such a delusional false reality propagated by your establishment that its worse than 2003. Ukraine is 'winning' despite losing, Russia is sinking despite becoming the 4th largest economy and having major increase in real wages, US economy is 'doing fine' even as the number and size of the sunken US banks eclipse 2008.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Russia is sinking despite becoming the 4th largest economy Sixth [1] to 11th [2], on track to being eclipsed by Indonesia and Mexico. > having major increase in real wages Real wages are up, yes, but real disposable income is flat [3]. This isn’t uncommon in a war footing [4]. Labour and necessities are diverted to the front, raising prices for both. That squeezes disposable income, which moderates price growth in luxuries. The effect, if you’re measuring with a pre-war basket of goods, is rising real earnings and falling disposable income. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PP... PPP [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(no... [3] https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/putin-grows-war-economy-incomes-suffer-lost-decade-2024-03-14/ https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/putin-grows-war-econo... [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany
- zrn900 2y ago
  >> Russia is sinking despite becoming the 4th largest economy What part of it is 'sinking'? It increased its oil exports. It increased its other resource exports. Europe is still buying Russian gas and oil, except through India and its now called 'Indian oil'. It achieved independence in a lot of things that it was buying from the West, mixing it with homegrown products and global south imports. The sanctions HIT EUROPE MORE, with all the European companies losing their market share in Russia and their market share being taken over by Russian companies and Chinese ones. The references are from REUTERS, none other than one of the Angloamerican establishment mouthpieces that sells every war including how they sold the WMD lies, and some aggregate of Wikipedia articles that are tangential and supposed to be relevant? Here's what's relevant: https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/fragile-why-more-us-banks-are-risk-run https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/fragile... > This isn’t uncommon in a war footing [4]. Labour and necessities are diverted to the front, raising prices for both. That squeezes disposable income, which moderates price growth in luxuries. The effect, if you’re measuring with a pre-war basket of goods, is rising real earnings and falling disposable income. None of that is applicable to the actual reality that Russians themselves report, you are just flat out theorizing what 'should happen' with absolutely no connection to the actual reality. Everything you say and believe is in line with things like 'ghost of kiev', "ukraine will reach Moscow in a month", "Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine in 3 months but it couldn't", "Chinese economy is set for a hard landing (yet) again" and all that sh*t. ... Really, you people live in la la land. Your worst enemy is not Russia or China. Its you and your delirious 'I prefer to believe what I like to hear" attitude. Downvote this post. It will make the reality go away.
  - AtlasBarfed 2y ago
    Even if you're right and I haven't looked at it the specific one cuz I don't really care, it's a short-term result. Russia is in the early midst of a complete demographic meltdown even before the war. The invasion Ukraine happened cuz this is the last disposable generation Russia could muster for invasion. Of course this is just hastening their demographic decline in the next 10 years. Combine that with the fact that it hastens the adoption of EVs and the moving off of fossil fuels, everything that Russia thinks it's achieving in this war is leading to it's more rapid decline in the next decade.
    - zrn900 2y ago
      > Even if you're right and I haven't looked at it the specific one cuz I don't really care That. Therein lies the problem that destroys the Angloamerican-led world order and the countries that are under its yoke from within: You prefer a certain version of reality that appeals to what you believe and feel. As a result, you literally ignore anything that contradicts those and amplify whatever supports those - which allows your establishment to literally lie to you to get to believe what YOU want to believe. Because, even if they tell the truth, you wont believe it ANYWAY, and you will do it... > it's a short-term result. ...like this. All the indicators show the contrary of what you currently believe. You even went much further than the majority of the population and actually acknowledged that this may be the case, and the situation may be different than what you believed. BUT, you STILL gravitate back to your preferred reality by rejecting the contradicting indicators, by labeling them 'short term'. They are not 'short term'. The entire world order changed. NYT admits it, Reuters admits it. But you, the public, WANT the reality to be otherwise. It wont. https://www.reuters.com/world/brics-poised-invite-new-members-join-bloc-sources-2023-08-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/brics-poised-invite-new-member... > The invasion Ukraine happened cuz this is the last disposable generation Russia could muster for invasion. The invasion of Ukraine happened because it was the last project of Brezinski and his proteges are still running the US foreign policy. He outlined how it should happen, and it was implemented precisely how he planned it before he died. > Combine that with the fact that it hastens the adoption of EVs and the moving off of fossil fuels Another delirium, that lives on the lie that the Angloamerican media sold to its public by saying that Russia was "an oil rig posing as a country". Its not. One lie supporting another, one lie being used to reject the uncomfortable reality when the numbers and actual events contradict it, gravitating back to the PREFERRED, false reality because, well, it makes you people 'feel good'. I'll leave you to your denial.
wnevets 2y ago
ignorance is strength
contingencies 2y ago
Here's some independent data points. 1) Everyone I personally knew in Russia has left, and every international collaboration in science I have seen seems to have ended. 2) People I know who are full time online teachers report that Chinese have virtually overnight lost their spot as the most numerous students, replaced by hordes of Russians seeking to emigrate. 3) Indisputable military points of clarity from global news are that Russia failed to capture Ukraine's capital after planning and attempting to do so, lost much of its Black Sea fleet, and suffered from a brief internal military uprising. 4) Russia's petro-diplomacy clearly backfired: the entire world has pivoted away from fossil fuels and the IEA just announced peak oil will occur this decade. I think any summary version of reality that includes Russia 'winning' at this stage is probably more stage-managed than the alternatives. Yes, they can grind people to death more than the Ukraine because of their larger population. No, that doesn't mean they 'win'. Both Russia and Ukraine will suffer long term macro-demographic structural issues from this war, however it ends. The people of Ukraine have greatly suffered. The Chinese will suffer too, because this aids Xi Jinping's narrative of resisting the west during a period in which he is asserting authoritarian nationalism and increasing financial, economic and cultural controls. Few people are making money. Certainly not Russia.
- SXX 2y ago
  While some people do left Russia many are returning back because there are very few countries that make it easy to immigrate there from Russia and in some of them there are no jobs or no one hire english speaking staff. Unfortunately west do nothing to deprive Russia of it's human resources. If only EU and US offered easier path for immigration there would be literally 100,000 of IT personnel who would happily left the country. Lont-term country is gonna be in terrible conditions, but not because of people leaving.
- zrn900 2y ago
  > Everyone I personally knew in Russia has left > People I know Everyone I know in my home country which has absolutely no relation with any of these has also left. The 99.9% of the population have not. Your personal circle and the specific demographics you belong to do not constitute statistics. > 3) Indisputable military points of clarity from global news are that Russia failed to capture Ukraine's capital after planning and attempting to do so Angloamerican and satellite media outlets are not 'global', not to mention that all the 'experts' that they rely on are full of sh_t just like how they were back in 2003. Their sole job is to sell this war so that US and satellite taxpayer money can be channeled back to US defense corporations via Ukraine. The result is that Raytheon et al are posting record profits. > 4) Russia's petro-diplomacy clearly backfired: the entire world You people say these delirious things. 80% of the world has increased its business relations with Russia instead of decreasing it. India even told a bipartisan British parliamentary delegation to sod off when they went to India to lecture them about how they should cut their relations with Russia. Here's 'the entire world': https://www.politico.eu/article/west-more-united-also-isolated-war-ukraine-russia-nato/ https://www.politico.eu/article/west-more-united-also-isolat... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/02/23/world/russia-ukraine-geopolitics.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/02/23/world/russia-... Even NYT admits that the West is isolated and 'the world' is literally with Russia. But you people contradict your own establishment mouthpieces. Here in Europe we are still buying Russian oil and gas, even more than before, EXCEPT THROUGH INDIA, GABON and other intermediaries. Gabon, a tiny African country, increased its merchant marine to 100 ships in a few months just to sell Russian oil and gas to Europe. Europe's exports to Russia cratered, but its exports to Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and various neighboring countries skyrocketed with the EXACT percentage with which its exports to Russia cratered. Go figure. Everything is the same as before in Europe related to Russia, and yet imports are more expensive because it goes through intermediaries. > the entire world has pivoted away from fossil fuels Another self-propagated delirium that is the product of too much Angloamerican media consumption. Hasnt happened. > I think any summary version of reality that includes Russia 'winning' at this stage The summary version of the reality in which Russia is winning is this reality. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/opinion/ukraine-military-aid.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/opinion/ukraine-military-... "Ukraine Doesn’t Need All Its Territory to Defeat Putin" Your establishment has gone from "Ukraine will get to Moscow in 3 months" to "Ukraine doesn't need its territory to win". They are making 'perception management' to manage you people as if you were idiots. And they seem to be succeeding too. > The Chinese will suffer too, because this aids Xi Jinping's narrative of resisting the west during a period in which he is asserting authoritarian nationalism and increasing financial, economic and cultural controls. Nobody needs to 'resist' 'the West'. Its bankrupt. Its capitalist class started to eat the societies alive by trying to profit from housing, healthcare, education and even basic foodstuffs as they exhausted the means to exploit other countries. Dollar lost its place as the foreign exchange currency and unused dollars are now flowing back to the US, causing inflation. 99% of Americans are estimated to be going to be never own a house whereas 80% of 30 year olds and 90% of 40 year olds own their houses in China, which they paid with their own money. 'The West' is so in knee-deep sh*t that this is what's happening there: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmerExit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmerExit/ You people are delusional and speak delirious. This is how it must have been in the late stages of Roman empire as it was nearing its end: Delusion and denial.

by zrn900 2y ago

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Russia is sinking despite becoming the 4th largest economy Sixth [1] to 11th [2], on track to being eclipsed by Indonesia and Mexico. > having major increase in real wages Real wages are up, yes, but real disposable income is flat [3]. This isn’t uncommon in a war footing [4]. Labour and necessities are diverted to the front, raising prices for both. That squeezes disposable income, which moderates price growth in luxuries. The effect, if you’re measuring with a pre-war basket of goods, is rising real earnings and falling disposable income. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PP... PPP [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(no... [3] https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/putin-grows-war-economy-incomes-suffer-lost-decade-2024-03-14/ https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/putin-grows-war-econo... [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

zrn900 2y ago
>> Russia is sinking despite becoming the 4th largest economy What part of it is 'sinking'? It increased its oil exports. It increased its other resource exports. Europe is still buying Russian gas and oil, except through India and its now called 'Indian oil'. It achieved independence in a lot of things that it was buying from the West, mixing it with homegrown products and global south imports. The sanctions HIT EUROPE MORE, with all the European companies losing their market share in Russia and their market share being taken over by Russian companies and Chinese ones. The references are from REUTERS, none other than one of the Angloamerican establishment mouthpieces that sells every war including how they sold the WMD lies, and some aggregate of Wikipedia articles that are tangential and supposed to be relevant? Here's what's relevant: https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/fragile-why-more-us-banks-are-risk-run https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/fragile... > This isn’t uncommon in a war footing [4]. Labour and necessities are diverted to the front, raising prices for both. That squeezes disposable income, which moderates price growth in luxuries. The effect, if you’re measuring with a pre-war basket of goods, is rising real earnings and falling disposable income. None of that is applicable to the actual reality that Russians themselves report, you are just flat out theorizing what 'should happen' with absolutely no connection to the actual reality. Everything you say and believe is in line with things like 'ghost of kiev', "ukraine will reach Moscow in a month", "Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine in 3 months but it couldn't", "Chinese economy is set for a hard landing (yet) again" and all that sh*t. ... Really, you people live in la la land. Your worst enemy is not Russia or China. Its you and your delirious 'I prefer to believe what I like to hear" attitude. Downvote this post. It will make the reality go away.
- AtlasBarfed 2y ago
  Even if you're right and I haven't looked at it the specific one cuz I don't really care, it's a short-term result. Russia is in the early midst of a complete demographic meltdown even before the war. The invasion Ukraine happened cuz this is the last disposable generation Russia could muster for invasion. Of course this is just hastening their demographic decline in the next 10 years. Combine that with the fact that it hastens the adoption of EVs and the moving off of fossil fuels, everything that Russia thinks it's achieving in this war is leading to it's more rapid decline in the next decade.
  - zrn900 2y ago
    > Even if you're right and I haven't looked at it the specific one cuz I don't really care That. Therein lies the problem that destroys the Angloamerican-led world order and the countries that are under its yoke from within: You prefer a certain version of reality that appeals to what you believe and feel. As a result, you literally ignore anything that contradicts those and amplify whatever supports those - which allows your establishment to literally lie to you to get to believe what YOU want to believe. Because, even if they tell the truth, you wont believe it ANYWAY, and you will do it... > it's a short-term result. ...like this. All the indicators show the contrary of what you currently believe. You even went much further than the majority of the population and actually acknowledged that this may be the case, and the situation may be different than what you believed. BUT, you STILL gravitate back to your preferred reality by rejecting the contradicting indicators, by labeling them 'short term'. They are not 'short term'. The entire world order changed. NYT admits it, Reuters admits it. But you, the public, WANT the reality to be otherwise. It wont. https://www.reuters.com/world/brics-poised-invite-new-members-join-bloc-sources-2023-08-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/brics-poised-invite-new-member... > The invasion Ukraine happened cuz this is the last disposable generation Russia could muster for invasion. The invasion of Ukraine happened because it was the last project of Brezinski and his proteges are still running the US foreign policy. He outlined how it should happen, and it was implemented precisely how he planned it before he died. > Combine that with the fact that it hastens the adoption of EVs and the moving off of fossil fuels Another delirium, that lives on the lie that the Angloamerican media sold to its public by saying that Russia was "an oil rig posing as a country". Its not. One lie supporting another, one lie being used to reject the uncomfortable reality when the numbers and actual events contradict it, gravitating back to the PREFERRED, false reality because, well, it makes you people 'feel good'. I'll leave you to your denial.

wnevets 2y ago

ignorance is strength

contingencies 2y ago

Here's some independent data points. 1) Everyone I personally knew in Russia has left, and every international collaboration in science I have seen seems to have ended. 2) People I know who are full time online teachers report that Chinese have virtually overnight lost their spot as the most numerous students, replaced by hordes of Russians seeking to emigrate. 3) Indisputable military points of clarity from global news are that Russia failed to capture Ukraine's capital after planning and attempting to do so, lost much of its Black Sea fleet, and suffered from a brief internal military uprising. 4) Russia's petro-diplomacy clearly backfired: the entire world has pivoted away from fossil fuels and the IEA just announced peak oil will occur this decade. I think any summary version of reality that includes Russia 'winning' at this stage is probably more stage-managed than the alternatives. Yes, they can grind people to death more than the Ukraine because of their larger population. No, that doesn't mean they 'win'. Both Russia and Ukraine will suffer long term macro-demographic structural issues from this war, however it ends. The people of Ukraine have greatly suffered. The Chinese will suffer too, because this aids Xi Jinping's narrative of resisting the west during a period in which he is asserting authoritarian nationalism and increasing financial, economic and cultural controls. Few people are making money. Certainly not Russia.

SXX 2y ago
While some people do left Russia many are returning back because there are very few countries that make it easy to immigrate there from Russia and in some of them there are no jobs or no one hire english speaking staff. Unfortunately west do nothing to deprive Russia of it's human resources. If only EU and US offered easier path for immigration there would be literally 100,000 of IT personnel who would happily left the country. Lont-term country is gonna be in terrible conditions, but not because of people leaving.
zrn900 2y ago
> Everyone I personally knew in Russia has left > People I know Everyone I know in my home country which has absolutely no relation with any of these has also left. The 99.9% of the population have not. Your personal circle and the specific demographics you belong to do not constitute statistics. > 3) Indisputable military points of clarity from global news are that Russia failed to capture Ukraine's capital after planning and attempting to do so Angloamerican and satellite media outlets are not 'global', not to mention that all the 'experts' that they rely on are full of sh_t just like how they were back in 2003. Their sole job is to sell this war so that US and satellite taxpayer money can be channeled back to US defense corporations via Ukraine. The result is that Raytheon et al are posting record profits. > 4) Russia's petro-diplomacy clearly backfired: the entire world You people say these delirious things. 80% of the world has increased its business relations with Russia instead of decreasing it. India even told a bipartisan British parliamentary delegation to sod off when they went to India to lecture them about how they should cut their relations with Russia. Here's 'the entire world': https://www.politico.eu/article/west-more-united-also-isolated-war-ukraine-russia-nato/ https://www.politico.eu/article/west-more-united-also-isolat... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/02/23/world/russia-ukraine-geopolitics.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/02/23/world/russia-... Even NYT admits that the West is isolated and 'the world' is literally with Russia. But you people contradict your own establishment mouthpieces. Here in Europe we are still buying Russian oil and gas, even more than before, EXCEPT THROUGH INDIA, GABON and other intermediaries. Gabon, a tiny African country, increased its merchant marine to 100 ships in a few months just to sell Russian oil and gas to Europe. Europe's exports to Russia cratered, but its exports to Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and various neighboring countries skyrocketed with the EXACT percentage with which its exports to Russia cratered. Go figure. Everything is the same as before in Europe related to Russia, and yet imports are more expensive because it goes through intermediaries. > the entire world has pivoted away from fossil fuels Another self-propagated delirium that is the product of too much Angloamerican media consumption. Hasnt happened. > I think any summary version of reality that includes Russia 'winning' at this stage The summary version of the reality in which Russia is winning is this reality. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/opinion/ukraine-military-aid.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/opinion/ukraine-military-... "Ukraine Doesn’t Need All Its Territory to Defeat Putin" Your establishment has gone from "Ukraine will get to Moscow in 3 months" to "Ukraine doesn't need its territory to win". They are making 'perception management' to manage you people as if you were idiots. And they seem to be succeeding too. > The Chinese will suffer too, because this aids Xi Jinping's narrative of resisting the west during a period in which he is asserting authoritarian nationalism and increasing financial, economic and cultural controls. Nobody needs to 'resist' 'the West'. Its bankrupt. Its capitalist class started to eat the societies alive by trying to profit from housing, healthcare, education and even basic foodstuffs as they exhausted the means to exploit other countries. Dollar lost its place as the foreign exchange currency and unused dollars are now flowing back to the US, causing inflation. 99% of Americans are estimated to be going to be never own a house whereas 80% of 30 year olds and 90% of 40 year olds own their houses in China, which they paid with their own money. 'The West' is so in knee-deep sh*t that this is what's happening there: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmerExit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmerExit/ You people are delusional and speak delirious. This is how it must have been in the late stages of Roman empire as it was nearing its end: Delusion and denial.