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You will need to provide citations on the last point as Facebook are widely known to have broken the gentleman's agreement between Apple and Google that was sup

You will need to provide citations on the last point as Facebook are widely known to have broken the gentleman's agreement between Apple and Google that was suppressing tech pay in the early 2010s.

giraffe_lady 2y ago
OK sure even if they didn't do that we're still left with "knowingly abetted a genocide" which no amount of open source work can ever balance out.
- rylittle 2y ago
  context?
  - _whiteCaps_ 2y ago
    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      This article seems to not really mention the "knowingly" or the "abetted". If there are people killing other people, I wouldn't say that a communication method was to blame. In Scream, Sidney didn't sue the phone company who let the killer call her from inside the house. The idea that some news feed posts whipped people up into a killing frenzy just sounds absurd. I wish the author could see that, and if the case is valid, to provide it, instead of some pretty tenuous claims of connection strung together to lead up to a demand for money. I did try to go to the link that evidenced the "multiple" times Facebook was contacted in a 5 year period, but I couldn't get through. How many times was it, for anyone who can?
      - giraffe_lady 2y ago
        The full report is linked to in the first paragraph. These points are all addressed in detail there.
        upwardbound 2y ago
        https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/ASA16/5933/2022/en/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/ASA16/5933/2022/en/
      - zorked 2y ago
        This is a very low-quality comment. Amnesty International published a substantial, well-researched, well-sourced study. Your comment is low-effort Internet skepticism based on ignorance and a straw-man argument. Read the report, gather data, then criticize it.
        robertlagrant 2y ago
        I'm talking about the article, not the report, and I tried to make clear where I didn't know things. Not sure what else would be appropriate.
        bishbosh 2y ago
        > If there are people killing other people, I wouldn't say that a communication method was to blame. In Scream, Sidney didn't sue the phone company who let the killer call her from inside the house. The idea that some news feed posts whipped people up into a killing frenzy just sounds absurd. This is the core of your point and a comment on the idea itself, not the way the article portrayed it. I think it's fare to characterize your dismissal as glib.

You will need to provide citations on the last point as Facebook are widely known to have broken the gentleman's agreement between Apple and Google that was suppressing tech pay in the early 2010s.

giraffe_lady 2y ago

OK sure even if they didn't do that we're still left with "knowingly abetted a genocide" which no amount of open source work can ever balance out.

rylittle 2y ago
context?
- _whiteCaps_ 2y ago
  https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    This article seems to not really mention the "knowingly" or the "abetted". If there are people killing other people, I wouldn't say that a communication method was to blame. In Scream, Sidney didn't sue the phone company who let the killer call her from inside the house. The idea that some news feed posts whipped people up into a killing frenzy just sounds absurd. I wish the author could see that, and if the case is valid, to provide it, instead of some pretty tenuous claims of connection strung together to lead up to a demand for money. I did try to go to the link that evidenced the "multiple" times Facebook was contacted in a 5 year period, but I couldn't get through. How many times was it, for anyone who can?
    - giraffe_lady 2y ago
      The full report is linked to in the first paragraph. These points are all addressed in detail there.
      - upwardbound 2y ago
        https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/ASA16/5933/2022/en/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/ASA16/5933/2022/en/
    - zorked 2y ago
      This is a very low-quality comment. Amnesty International published a substantial, well-researched, well-sourced study. Your comment is low-effort Internet skepticism based on ignorance and a straw-man argument. Read the report, gather data, then criticize it.
      - robertlagrant 2y ago
        I'm talking about the article, not the report, and I tried to make clear where I didn't know things. Not sure what else would be appropriate.
        bishbosh 2y ago
        > If there are people killing other people, I wouldn't say that a communication method was to blame. In Scream, Sidney didn't sue the phone company who let the killer call her from inside the house. The idea that some news feed posts whipped people up into a killing frenzy just sounds absurd. This is the core of your point and a comment on the idea itself, not the way the article portrayed it. I think it's fare to characterize your dismissal as glib.