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YouTube is unusable without Premium or an ad blocker. I can't imagine that they have many users that doesn't have either. If YouTube have an issue with adblock

YouTube is unusable without Premium or an ad blocker. I can't imagine that they have many users that doesn't have either. If YouTube have an issue with adblockers, then that is a problem they brought upon themselves.

floren 2y ago
> YouTube is unusable without Premium or an ad blocker. I can't imagine that they have many users that doesn't have either. aside from millions of children on tablets, that is
- bee_rider 2y ago
  Sure but they are just experiencing the world for the first time and discovering what their “ground state” opinions and preferences will be. Surely exposing them to a deluge of ads can’t be harmful.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  And also the millions of adults that DO browse the web without an ad blocker and don't pay for youtube premium. Like we don't have to wonder "aw man surely nobody suffers through this" because ad companies have expressly stated, in reports that must be somewhat accurate or else the SEC comes knocking, that only 1/3 people using their services uses ad blockers. More people than not are unable or unwilling to block ads, and experience that disgusting web that plenty of us know to be obscene, obnoxious, and probably just not healthy for your brain. But I bet every worker of google willingly chooses to browse that web without an ad blocker right? Surely they are happy to experience the same world they make their money from right?
tombert 2y ago
Once YouTube Premium (Or Red initially, I guess), was released, it became extraordinarily hard to watch anything with ads in any capacity. When I visit my in-laws, they still have regular cable TV and I cannot believe that I ever used to sit through this much crap. I was the first person in my friend/family group to do the cord-cutting thing (2012), and so this has been kind of an issue for the last twelve years for me, because whenever I would visit them I'd be stuck with traditional media. The ads must make considerable money though; Amazon Prime started having them by default unless you pay an extra $3/month, which I will not do, and I won't watch ads, so I've just stopped watching things on Amazon, and I doubt I'm the only one; surely Amazon wouldn't annoy their customers like this unless they were getting considerable money for it. It makes me a little sad that Blu-rays appear to be getting phased out, especially for TV shows. I'm not opposed to paying for media that I consume, but I really don't want ads or DRM [1], so I'm not sure what my options are but to just consume YouTube and from my existing (quite sizeable) blu-ray collection. [1] I know Blu-ray has DRM but it's trivial to remove it in a rip so I still consider it DRM-free from a practical perspective.

floren 2y ago

> YouTube is unusable without Premium or an ad blocker. I can't imagine that they have many users that doesn't have either. aside from millions of children on tablets, that is

bee_rider 2y ago
Sure but they are just experiencing the world for the first time and discovering what their “ground state” opinions and preferences will be. Surely exposing them to a deluge of ads can’t be harmful.
mrguyorama 2y ago
And also the millions of adults that DO browse the web without an ad blocker and don't pay for youtube premium. Like we don't have to wonder "aw man surely nobody suffers through this" because ad companies have expressly stated, in reports that must be somewhat accurate or else the SEC comes knocking, that only 1/3 people using their services uses ad blockers. More people than not are unable or unwilling to block ads, and experience that disgusting web that plenty of us know to be obscene, obnoxious, and probably just not healthy for your brain. But I bet every worker of google willingly chooses to browse that web without an ad blocker right? Surely they are happy to experience the same world they make their money from right?

tombert 2y ago

Once YouTube Premium (Or Red initially, I guess), was released, it became extraordinarily hard to watch anything with ads in any capacity. When I visit my in-laws, they still have regular cable TV and I cannot believe that I ever used to sit through this much crap. I was the first person in my friend/family group to do the cord-cutting thing (2012), and so this has been kind of an issue for the last twelve years for me, because whenever I would visit them I'd be stuck with traditional media. The ads must make considerable money though; Amazon Prime started having them by default unless you pay an extra $3/month, which I will not do, and I won't watch ads, so I've just stopped watching things on Amazon, and I doubt I'm the only one; surely Amazon wouldn't annoy their customers like this unless they were getting considerable money for it. It makes me a little sad that Blu-rays appear to be getting phased out, especially for TV shows. I'm not opposed to paying for media that I consume, but I really don't want ads or DRM [1], so I'm not sure what my options are but to just consume YouTube and from my existing (quite sizeable) blu-ray collection. [1] I know Blu-ray has DRM but it's trivial to remove it in a rip so I still consider it DRM-free from a practical perspective.