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My free stack, 2024 edition: Fedora Linux Sway spin, Inkscape, GNU Image Manipulation Program, KdenLive, Natron, Blender, FreeCAD, KiCAD, OpenSCAD, Orca slicer,

My free stack, 2024 edition: Fedora Linux Sway spin, Inkscape, GNU Image Manipulation Program, KdenLive, Natron, Blender, FreeCAD, KiCAD, OpenSCAD, Orca slicer, IceCat, Zulip, LibreOffice, and a flock of CLI tools

fsloth 2y ago
2024 and Gimp remains horrible (as it has always been). It’s cool it brings value to you and others but Photoshop replacement it is not.
- Gigachad 2y ago
  Gimp is painful to use for even once off small stuff. If you at all do anything commercially, the benefits of photoshop would have paid for itself over gimp.
- opan 2y ago
  With enough disgruntled ex-Adobe users looking for something new, you'd think GIMP would be improved or replaced by better free software. I feel that people switching to another proprietary thing will just run into problems again in the future. It makes more sense to come up with a permanent solution.
- worksonmine 2y ago
  Depends what you need it for. I don't think it's bad but my use-cases are very simple.
- jwells89 2y ago
  IMO many of its most glaring issues could be fixed by “simply” (I know it’s probably more involved in reality) swapping out bespoke widgets for standard GTK counterparts with more standard/commonly familiar behaviors. The poster child for this is easily the layers palette. It looks like a scrolling list widget like you’d find on any major desktop OS released in the past 30 years but doesn’t behave like one, with oddities like inability to multi-select. Instead, the user is expected to learn GIMP-specific behaviors that aren’t useful in any other program. There’s not really a good reason for this, aside for familiarity for existing users and while that’s an important thing to consider I’m not sure it’s worth impeding retention of new users.
  - fsloth 2y ago
    IMHO the problems in the usability of the software go far deeper than simply switching the widgets. This is not to shit on Gimp! It's a completely adequate package of various image processing algorithms. However, this does not make it a replacement for Photoshop for a large segment of users. I've been using Photoshop for 30 years and tried to use gimp for 25 years :D
    - tambourine_man 2y ago
      Roughly the same amount of years here, same conclusion. I'd love to ditch Adobe for an open stack. I've day-dreamed about creating an open alternative to Photoshop many times. It's a daunting task, it would take many years of dedication for reaching even a mediocre competitor to the 90s Photoshop.
      - t0bia_s 2y ago
        Adobe monopoly needs to be taken down one day. It's paradox, that in creative, free world, you are tight to one piece software that dictate a way how to make digital visual production. If you want to make living in this industry, you really don't have other options.

fsloth 2y ago

2024 and Gimp remains horrible (as it has always been). It’s cool it brings value to you and others but Photoshop replacement it is not.

Gigachad 2y ago
Gimp is painful to use for even once off small stuff. If you at all do anything commercially, the benefits of photoshop would have paid for itself over gimp.
opan 2y ago
With enough disgruntled ex-Adobe users looking for something new, you'd think GIMP would be improved or replaced by better free software. I feel that people switching to another proprietary thing will just run into problems again in the future. It makes more sense to come up with a permanent solution.
worksonmine 2y ago
Depends what you need it for. I don't think it's bad but my use-cases are very simple.
jwells89 2y ago
IMO many of its most glaring issues could be fixed by “simply” (I know it’s probably more involved in reality) swapping out bespoke widgets for standard GTK counterparts with more standard/commonly familiar behaviors. The poster child for this is easily the layers palette. It looks like a scrolling list widget like you’d find on any major desktop OS released in the past 30 years but doesn’t behave like one, with oddities like inability to multi-select. Instead, the user is expected to learn GIMP-specific behaviors that aren’t useful in any other program. There’s not really a good reason for this, aside for familiarity for existing users and while that’s an important thing to consider I’m not sure it’s worth impeding retention of new users.
- fsloth 2y ago
  IMHO the problems in the usability of the software go far deeper than simply switching the widgets. This is not to shit on Gimp! It's a completely adequate package of various image processing algorithms. However, this does not make it a replacement for Photoshop for a large segment of users. I've been using Photoshop for 30 years and tried to use gimp for 25 years :D
  - tambourine_man 2y ago
    Roughly the same amount of years here, same conclusion. I'd love to ditch Adobe for an open stack. I've day-dreamed about creating an open alternative to Photoshop many times. It's a daunting task, it would take many years of dedication for reaching even a mediocre competitor to the 90s Photoshop.
    - t0bia_s 2y ago
      Adobe monopoly needs to be taken down one day. It's paradox, that in creative, free world, you are tight to one piece software that dictate a way how to make digital visual production. If you want to make living in this industry, you really don't have other options.