30F or 40F ain't bad. My familial roots are in Western NY, where 30F or 40F in the winter is outrageously hot...effectively T-shirt and shorts weather. People

30F or 40F ain't bad. My familial roots are in Western NY, where 30F or 40F in the winter is outrageously hot...effectively T-shirt and shorts weather. People rail against those living in the desert because there's often no water and the water needed to sustain a growing metropolis just isn't available without spending a ton of money and diverting it away from other population centers. Most cold places do have access to water in much larger quantities. (Most, but certainly not all) Honestly we should all just live in San Diego, where it's never below 65 and never above 85. Perfect weather.