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Canada seems to be making all the wrong decisions, all of the time.

Teever 2y ago
Where are you getting that impression? Like in curious which media sources you're watching that are informing you about the state of Canada?
- voisin 2y ago
  Jacking up immigration without any infrastructure planning to support it? Keeping medical school residencies small - zero growth! - while in a crisis of lack of primary care physicians? In the midst of record inflation, choosing $40b deficit spending that any economist will tell you is inflationary? In the midst of record low - and dropping! - productivity, increasing taxes on capital to disincentivize investment in this country?
  - Teever 2y ago
    Your answer doesn't answer my question. I'm asking that user where they get their news about Canada from. I'm assuming that they're not Canadian and I'm interested to know where non Canadians read news about Canada.
    - voisin 2y ago
      My response is that this list of things is covered across the political spectrum of media sources - these items are not controversial, fringe issues covered only outside of Canada to portray Canada poorly for some purpose. Our most prominent news organizations cover these debacles constantly: National Post (right leaning) or Globe and Mail (left leaning), CBC, and out to the fringes as well.
      - Teever 2y ago
        Again, your answer is to a question that wasn't directed towards you, and it doesn't answer the question. I'm a Canadian, I read these sources and am well aware of the issues you want to soapbox about. I'm not interested in hearing about them from you. If I did I would go to /r/canada to hear the exact same stuff. What I'm far more interested in is seeing where non-Canadians get their news about Canada.
smallbluedot 2y ago
It's because we're governed by corrupt imbeciles.
gamegod 2y ago
That's how US media would like to portray Canada (socialism bad!), but we're doing just great over here and making pretty decent decisions for ourselves. We don't get everything right at first, and we're way behind on our green transition, but we'll get there in the end. This new tax complements our CanCon rules [1] which help protect Canadian artists. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content
- 0x5345414e 2y ago
  Right. Aside from declining GDP per capita, way too much immigration, a housing crisis and wage stagnation things are going great!
  - skeeter2020 2y ago
    >> way too much immigration maybe the wrong composition of immigration, but too much? Not if you want to retire some day and need some help from the next generations. Our natural birth rate is not going to do it...
    - marcusverus 2y ago
      It's time we all pull our heads out of the sand and admit that the lavish elder-welfare programs of 20th century are simply untenable. They were only workable because of a quirk of demographics (the baby boom), but that's over now. It's gone. And it's not coming back. This fact is clearly inconvenient for progressives, who want nothing more than to go on playing Santa Claus. But the only solution you all have to offer (mass immigration) has the teensy-weensy downside of inevitably leading to the cultural obliteration of the West. It's a ghoulish and unserious option, which is why increasingly vocal majorities oppose it throughout the western world. The more you all push for this insanity against the will of the people, the greater will be the damage and the harsher the inevitable backlash.
      - andrepd 2y ago
        State pensions are anything but "lavish". The social security welfare state predates the baby boom you speak of and also exists in countries which never had it. Below replacement rates are a problem, yes, but that can be solved if you work towards not making "having children" be a luxury not affordable for the proles. On your other topic, let me point you to a certain western country which has always had a torrent of immigration from all around the globe and has not had the cultural downfall and obliteration in fire and flames that you vaticinate: a certain United States.
canadiantim 2y ago
We're learning a very hard lesson never to trust the Liberal party of Canada ever again. If you're Canadian, you'll know this lesson as the same one learned in Ontario in regards to Wynne and the Ontario Liberal Party there, whose brain trust all moved federally into the Trudeau government leading to the exact same predictable outcome.
- voisin 2y ago
  100%. As a lifelong Liberal, I cannot believe the policies we have seen over the last few years and cannot fathom voting Liberal again. I just wish the conservatives would show some interest in protecting the environment.
voisin 2y ago
Trudeau’s government seems to be making all the wrong decisions, all of the time. FTFY. And I am saying this as a lifelong Liberal.
- skeeter2020 2y ago
  It's typically Canadian small-potatoes in manifestation, but not that much different from any other government desperate to hang on. Populist appeals to "fairness" and out of control spending that will force the hand of the group that has the resources to fight, find loopholes or leave. This is not going to end well when it's time to pay the bills.
OskarS 2y ago
Personally, I think this is a great policy! Local news is incredibly important to the health of a democracy (somebody needs to show up at those city council meetings and report on them, and national media wont do it), but it's doing quite poorly in the modern media landscape. I do not think it is at all a problem to support it like this, and a tax on streaming seems like a great way to do it. If you are hesitant about the concept of subsidizing local press or media companies in general, it's absolutely nothing new: Sweden has been doing this for more than 50 years, and (in my opinion) it's largely been extremely beneficial to the media environment.
HDThoreaun 2y ago
I live in chicago and we've had a streaming tax for what feels like a decade now. Not sure what the big deal is here

Where are you getting that impression? Like in curious which media sources you're watching that are informing you about the state of Canada?

voisin 2y ago
Jacking up immigration without any infrastructure planning to support it? Keeping medical school residencies small - zero growth! - while in a crisis of lack of primary care physicians? In the midst of record inflation, choosing $40b deficit spending that any economist will tell you is inflationary? In the midst of record low - and dropping! - productivity, increasing taxes on capital to disincentivize investment in this country?
- Teever 2y ago
  Your answer doesn't answer my question. I'm asking that user where they get their news about Canada from. I'm assuming that they're not Canadian and I'm interested to know where non Canadians read news about Canada.
  - voisin 2y ago
    My response is that this list of things is covered across the political spectrum of media sources - these items are not controversial, fringe issues covered only outside of Canada to portray Canada poorly for some purpose. Our most prominent news organizations cover these debacles constantly: National Post (right leaning) or Globe and Mail (left leaning), CBC, and out to the fringes as well.
    - Teever 2y ago
      Again, your answer is to a question that wasn't directed towards you, and it doesn't answer the question. I'm a Canadian, I read these sources and am well aware of the issues you want to soapbox about. I'm not interested in hearing about them from you. If I did I would go to /r/canada to hear the exact same stuff. What I'm far more interested in is seeing where non-Canadians get their news about Canada.

smallbluedot 2y ago

It's because we're governed by corrupt imbeciles.

gamegod 2y ago

That's how US media would like to portray Canada (socialism bad!), but we're doing just great over here and making pretty decent decisions for ourselves. We don't get everything right at first, and we're way behind on our green transition, but we'll get there in the end. This new tax complements our CanCon rules [1] which help protect Canadian artists. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content

0x5345414e 2y ago
Right. Aside from declining GDP per capita, way too much immigration, a housing crisis and wage stagnation things are going great!
- skeeter2020 2y ago
  >> way too much immigration maybe the wrong composition of immigration, but too much? Not if you want to retire some day and need some help from the next generations. Our natural birth rate is not going to do it...
  - marcusverus 2y ago
    It's time we all pull our heads out of the sand and admit that the lavish elder-welfare programs of 20th century are simply untenable. They were only workable because of a quirk of demographics (the baby boom), but that's over now. It's gone. And it's not coming back. This fact is clearly inconvenient for progressives, who want nothing more than to go on playing Santa Claus. But the only solution you all have to offer (mass immigration) has the teensy-weensy downside of inevitably leading to the cultural obliteration of the West. It's a ghoulish and unserious option, which is why increasingly vocal majorities oppose it throughout the western world. The more you all push for this insanity against the will of the people, the greater will be the damage and the harsher the inevitable backlash.
    - andrepd 2y ago
      State pensions are anything but "lavish". The social security welfare state predates the baby boom you speak of and also exists in countries which never had it. Below replacement rates are a problem, yes, but that can be solved if you work towards not making "having children" be a luxury not affordable for the proles. On your other topic, let me point you to a certain western country which has always had a torrent of immigration from all around the globe and has not had the cultural downfall and obliteration in fire and flames that you vaticinate: a certain United States.

canadiantim 2y ago

We're learning a very hard lesson never to trust the Liberal party of Canada ever again. If you're Canadian, you'll know this lesson as the same one learned in Ontario in regards to Wynne and the Ontario Liberal Party there, whose brain trust all moved federally into the Trudeau government leading to the exact same predictable outcome.

voisin 2y ago
100%. As a lifelong Liberal, I cannot believe the policies we have seen over the last few years and cannot fathom voting Liberal again. I just wish the conservatives would show some interest in protecting the environment.

voisin 2y ago

Trudeau’s government seems to be making all the wrong decisions, all of the time. FTFY. And I am saying this as a lifelong Liberal.

skeeter2020 2y ago
It's typically Canadian small-potatoes in manifestation, but not that much different from any other government desperate to hang on. Populist appeals to "fairness" and out of control spending that will force the hand of the group that has the resources to fight, find loopholes or leave. This is not going to end well when it's time to pay the bills.

OskarS 2y ago

Personally, I think this is a great policy! Local news is incredibly important to the health of a democracy (somebody needs to show up at those city council meetings and report on them, and national media wont do it), but it's doing quite poorly in the modern media landscape. I do not think it is at all a problem to support it like this, and a tax on streaming seems like a great way to do it. If you are hesitant about the concept of subsidizing local press or media companies in general, it's absolutely nothing new: Sweden has been doing this for more than 50 years, and (in my opinion) it's largely been extremely beneficial to the media environment.

HDThoreaun 2y ago

I live in chicago and we've had a streaming tax for what feels like a decade now. Not sure what the big deal is here