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What the news about Boeing has done is make me pay more attention to commercial aviation in general. The number of aviation incidents is actually pretty crazy,

What the news about Boeing has done is make me pay more attention to commercial aviation in general. The number of aviation incidents is actually pretty crazy, and no, Boeing is not at the center of them despite what the media would have you believe. What is amazing though is the actual injury and fatality rate is really low due to well trained crews and measured responses by air controllers.

FabHK 2y ago
> the actual injury and fatality rate is really low due to well trained crews and measured responses by air controllers. It’s the crew and ATC staff, definitely, but also - the amazingly well engineered airplanes (despite recent Boeing hiccups - just goes to demonstrate the high standards) with many redundancies; - the archaic, but robust ATC system; and - last but not least the excellent safety culture, which investigates problems thoroughly to the root, but without blaming individuals.
- rvnx 2y ago
  Boeing could still argue "you see, it's safe, redundant systems worked, we haven't killed anyone this time"
dotancohen 2y ago
The word that you are looking for is resilience I believe. Commercial and GA aircraft are highly resilient, and the procedures built around that industry are highly resilient as well.
- giantg2 2y ago
  Assuming one follows the procedures... Boeing...
alistairSH 2y ago
What really blows my mind in the number of near-misses on active runways (at least within the US). I don't know if the trend is up, as I don't have historic data, but certainly looking at Youtube (VASAviation, etc), there are a scary number of them (2 within the last 45 days at one of my local airports).
- whymauri 2y ago
  I watched this video recently and found it really informative w.r.t. commercial aviation near misses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiPt1YVkP8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiPt1YVkP8 It gives just enough detail around the classification system, rate of incidents, root causes, etc, that I could search for and learn more on my own after.
russfink 2y ago
Potentially dumb comment, but how long until AI replaces - or at least complements - ATC personnel?

FabHK 2y ago

> the actual injury and fatality rate is really low due to well trained crews and measured responses by air controllers. It’s the crew and ATC staff, definitely, but also - the amazingly well engineered airplanes (despite recent Boeing hiccups - just goes to demonstrate the high standards) with many redundancies; - the archaic, but robust ATC system; and - last but not least the excellent safety culture, which investigates problems thoroughly to the root, but without blaming individuals.

rvnx 2y ago
Boeing could still argue "you see, it's safe, redundant systems worked, we haven't killed anyone this time"

dotancohen 2y ago

The word that you are looking for is resilience I believe. Commercial and GA aircraft are highly resilient, and the procedures built around that industry are highly resilient as well.

giantg2 2y ago
Assuming one follows the procedures... Boeing...

alistairSH 2y ago

What really blows my mind in the number of near-misses on active runways (at least within the US). I don't know if the trend is up, as I don't have historic data, but certainly looking at Youtube (VASAviation, etc), there are a scary number of them (2 within the last 45 days at one of my local airports).

whymauri 2y ago
I watched this video recently and found it really informative w.r.t. commercial aviation near misses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiPt1YVkP8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiPt1YVkP8 It gives just enough detail around the classification system, rate of incidents, root causes, etc, that I could search for and learn more on my own after.

russfink 2y ago

Potentially dumb comment, but how long until AI replaces - or at least complements - ATC personnel?