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Who wants to bet that Qualcom is spinning a RISC-V version as fast as it can - this after all is why open source ISAs are a good thing

rwmj 2y ago
They've been very active in RISC-V technical groups recently. What exactly that means - whether they are serious about developing cores, or just want an insurance policy with leverage to use against Arm - isn't clear. Personally I hope we do get a "Snapdragon V" one day.
lobochrome 2y ago
I’ll take that
sloowm 2y ago
I don't think Qualcomm or any of the current market leaders will be the first to do a big RISC-V push. While dealing with the ARM company might be a hassle having an exclusive ISA limits the competition which is good for business. When the first one moves and the software is created for it there are more opportunities for competitors. Qualcomm doesn't want to create the invitation but also wants to make sure there is a place at the party for them. RISC-V will probably get it's first big adoption through some new or shifting industry creating their own chip. Like how ARM got into phones or Amazon started to use their own ARM chips. This guarantees all the infrastructure can be build and used in the future.
wildzzz 2y ago
It's nice having an open ISA but companies go with ARM because the cores are already developed. There are RISC-V cores available for purchase too but they aren't up to the same level of performance yet.
- snvzz 2y ago
  SiFive announced P870[0] last October[1]. It competes with ARM's absolute best. Ventana Veyron V2 and Tenstorrent Ascalon/Alastor are other already announced, highly competitive, very high performance microarchitectures. The high performance chips are coming. RISC-V is inevitable. 0. https://www.sifive.com/cores/performance-p870-p870a https://www.sifive.com/cores/performance-p870-p870a 1. https://www.sifive.com/press/sifive-announces-differentiated-solutions-for-generative https://www.sifive.com/press/sifive-announces-differentiated...

rwmj 2y ago

They've been very active in RISC-V technical groups recently. What exactly that means - whether they are serious about developing cores, or just want an insurance policy with leverage to use against Arm - isn't clear. Personally I hope we do get a "Snapdragon V" one day.

lobochrome 2y ago

I’ll take that

sloowm 2y ago

I don't think Qualcomm or any of the current market leaders will be the first to do a big RISC-V push. While dealing with the ARM company might be a hassle having an exclusive ISA limits the competition which is good for business. When the first one moves and the software is created for it there are more opportunities for competitors. Qualcomm doesn't want to create the invitation but also wants to make sure there is a place at the party for them. RISC-V will probably get it's first big adoption through some new or shifting industry creating their own chip. Like how ARM got into phones or Amazon started to use their own ARM chips. This guarantees all the infrastructure can be build and used in the future.

wildzzz 2y ago

It's nice having an open ISA but companies go with ARM because the cores are already developed. There are RISC-V cores available for purchase too but they aren't up to the same level of performance yet.

snvzz 2y ago
SiFive announced P870[0] last October[1]. It competes with ARM's absolute best. Ventana Veyron V2 and Tenstorrent Ascalon/Alastor are other already announced, highly competitive, very high performance microarchitectures. The high performance chips are coming. RISC-V is inevitable. 0. https://www.sifive.com/cores/performance-p870-p870a https://www.sifive.com/cores/performance-p870-p870a 1. https://www.sifive.com/press/sifive-announces-differentiated-solutions-for-generative https://www.sifive.com/press/sifive-announces-differentiated...