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Okay, so you are saying I should move to america, where apparently a lot of people struggle hard to even get a job? Nah, then ill get my very good wagie pennie

Okay, so you are saying I should move to america, where apparently a lot of people struggle hard to even get a job? Nah, then ill get my very good wagie pennies here and have plenty jobs available, plus good health insurrance and whatnot.

dash2 2y ago
German unemployment is 3.2%. US unemployment is 4.0%. Neither of these are at all high by historical standards. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2024/06/PE24_217_132.html https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2024/06/PE24_217_132.html
- dailykoder 2y ago
  Sure, and I can only judge from what I'm hearing, but the internet does make it sounds like it's very hard to find programming jobs as a graduate or junior. I don't know what the truth is. Maybe it's just a minority crying out loud because they don't get hired at FAANG.
- jangxx 2y ago
  Don't forget to take both of those stats with a grain of salt though. The US has a lot of gig workers which are not always counted correctly or the same and Germany has a large low-wage sector, where people are employed but earn less per month that they would get in unemployment benefits, and so the state pays the difference.
ptero 2y ago
That is a perfectly reasonable approach. On the other side, working in the tech on the US salary, if not blown on luxurious lifestyle, gives one a good chance of quickly reaching financial semi-independence (say, 3 years of full living expenses in the bank), which can be a powerful feature. My 2c.
- drawback 2y ago
  Or do both, work for a US company remotely. Most large ones even have an entity in the larger EU countries that can employ you with all the benefits of being an EU employee. They might not pay the exact same as in the US but still considerably above market rate.
Rinzler89 2y ago
>Okay, so you are saying I should move to america Please stop breaking HN rules. I never said that. HN rules state you need to reply to the strongest interpretation of someone's argument, not the weakest that's easiest to criticize. I just pointed out once country's economics performance for comparison, if you're want to extrapolate from that that you should move there, that's your issues to deal with, but not my argument.

dash2 2y ago

German unemployment is 3.2%. US unemployment is 4.0%. Neither of these are at all high by historical standards. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2024/06/PE24_217_132.html https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2024/06/PE24_217_132.html

dailykoder 2y ago
Sure, and I can only judge from what I'm hearing, but the internet does make it sounds like it's very hard to find programming jobs as a graduate or junior. I don't know what the truth is. Maybe it's just a minority crying out loud because they don't get hired at FAANG.
jangxx 2y ago
Don't forget to take both of those stats with a grain of salt though. The US has a lot of gig workers which are not always counted correctly or the same and Germany has a large low-wage sector, where people are employed but earn less per month that they would get in unemployment benefits, and so the state pays the difference.

ptero 2y ago

That is a perfectly reasonable approach. On the other side, working in the tech on the US salary, if not blown on luxurious lifestyle, gives one a good chance of quickly reaching financial semi-independence (say, 3 years of full living expenses in the bank), which can be a powerful feature. My 2c.

drawback 2y ago
Or do both, work for a US company remotely. Most large ones even have an entity in the larger EU countries that can employ you with all the benefits of being an EU employee. They might not pay the exact same as in the US but still considerably above market rate.

Rinzler89 2y ago

>Okay, so you are saying I should move to america Please stop breaking HN rules. I never said that. HN rules state you need to reply to the strongest interpretation of someone's argument, not the weakest that's easiest to criticize. I just pointed out once country's economics performance for comparison, if you're want to extrapolate from that that you should move there, that's your issues to deal with, but not my argument.