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Second that. I have been in the industry for 37 years. The Taylorism didn't exist until "Agile" came along around the year 2000. Every programmer was a craftsma

by _hcuq 2y ago

Second that. I have been in the industry for 37 years. The Taylorism didn't exist until "Agile" came along around the year 2000. Every programmer was a craftsman before that. These days, I wouldn't take (or get)a job in most software companies. I suspect that in quite a few non software companies there are software craftspeople working away quietly.

dualogy 2y ago
> The Taylorism didn't exist until "Agile" came along around the year 2000. Its widespread adoption (and usually counter to the spirit of the original Manifest itself) took years however — years where most places, the craftfulness was still prevalent. Myself I haven't encountered that in teams until the mid-2010s, less than a decade ago. Might have been earlier in SV, of course, though. And the bigger Java/.NET/Enterprise shops.
AnimalMuppet 2y ago
> The Taylorism didn't exist until "Agile" came along around the year 2000. There was plenty of that before 2000, but it was more in the mainframe world. "Data processing". Government contracts. Business applications. "Software analysts" who broke the problem down into small chunks, and gave those to programmers. I have been in the industry for 39 years, and I avoided almost all of that, but it was there...