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The Pixel 8 is promised 7, which I believe is the highest of any phone.

by mortos 2y ago

nordsieck 2y ago
I guess we'll see how things shake out. Unless something drastic changes, I'm sticking with Apple because of their demonstrated long-term support. Every phone since 2015 has been supported for 6-7 years. And that's actual support, not a "technically correct" mix of real support and security patches only. https://www.statista.com/chart/5824/ios-iphone-compatibility/ https://www.statista.com/chart/5824/ios-iphone-compatibility...
- wasabinator 2y ago
  That's overlooking the fact that Apple does not release the full featureset of new iOS versions on older devices and as years pass the number of feature omissions increases.
  - asadalt 2y ago
    which makes sense? like i can’t expect the new ai intelligence (a 3B model) will run at all on iPhone X
  - youngtaff 2y ago
    There’s hardware dependencies for some of the ‘missing’ features and if the hardware’s not there then there’s not a lot the OS can do to support it
eliaspro 2y ago
The Fairphone 5 will get 8 years of security updates: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/18020671537041-Fairphone-5-FAQ https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/180206715370...
- 1oooqooq 2y ago
  it's laughable because i doubt they have any proof that Qualcomm will continue to deliver updates. fairphone is just a intermediary. they are using the long life Qualcomm parts, that only guarantee production and stock for x years. maybe with software updates by an intern. it definitely will not guarantee a new driver set compiling to a recent kernel if the old kernel must be upgraded for security or anything else. so it's kinda bold they promise that with out any disclaimer that they are just hopeful
fsflover 2y ago
Librem 5 will get lifetime updates, because it runs mainline Linux without proprietary drivers.
oblio 2y ago
> Availability of software and firmware updates > (a) > The latest available version of the firmware shall be made available for a minimum period of eight years after the placing on the market of the last unit of a certain product model, free of charge or at a fair, transparent and non-discriminatory cost. The latest available security update to the firmware shall be made available until at least eight years after the placing on the market of the last product of a certain product model, free of charge. (b) > Information on the minimum guaranteed availability of software and firmware updates, availability of spare parts and product support shall be indicated in the product information sheet as from Annex V of Regulation (EU) 2019/2013. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2019/2021/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2019/2021/oj I can't find all of it, but part of it (Samsung also did the same thing) is triggered by EU environment protection directives.
bwat49 2y ago
Samsung S24 has 7 years as well
kaba0 2y ago
Google can’t even keep a project alive for that long, so let’s not jump ahead. We will see when they actually deliver.
- nolist_policy 2y ago
  Um they already delivered, for example on 8 years of updates for past Chromebooks.

The Pixel 8 is promised 7, which I believe is the highest of any phone.

by mortos 2y ago

The Pixel 8 is promised 7, which I believe is the highest of any phone.

I guess we'll see how things shake out. Unless something drastic changes, I'm sticking with Apple because of their demonstrated long-term support. Every phone since 2015 has been supported for 6-7 years. And that's actual support, not a "technically correct" mix of real support and security patches only. https://www.statista.com/chart/5824/ios-iphone-compatibility/ https://www.statista.com/chart/5824/ios-iphone-compatibility...

wasabinator 2y ago
That's overlooking the fact that Apple does not release the full featureset of new iOS versions on older devices and as years pass the number of feature omissions increases.
- asadalt 2y ago
  which makes sense? like i can’t expect the new ai intelligence (a 3B model) will run at all on iPhone X
- youngtaff 2y ago
  There’s hardware dependencies for some of the ‘missing’ features and if the hardware’s not there then there’s not a lot the OS can do to support it

eliaspro 2y ago

The Fairphone 5 will get 8 years of security updates: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/18020671537041-Fairphone-5-FAQ https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/180206715370...

1oooqooq 2y ago
it's laughable because i doubt they have any proof that Qualcomm will continue to deliver updates. fairphone is just a intermediary. they are using the long life Qualcomm parts, that only guarantee production and stock for x years. maybe with software updates by an intern. it definitely will not guarantee a new driver set compiling to a recent kernel if the old kernel must be upgraded for security or anything else. so it's kinda bold they promise that with out any disclaimer that they are just hopeful

fsflover 2y ago

Librem 5 will get lifetime updates, because it runs mainline Linux without proprietary drivers.

oblio 2y ago

> Availability of software and firmware updates > (a) > The latest available version of the firmware shall be made available for a minimum period of eight years after the placing on the market of the last unit of a certain product model, free of charge or at a fair, transparent and non-discriminatory cost. The latest available security update to the firmware shall be made available until at least eight years after the placing on the market of the last product of a certain product model, free of charge. (b) > Information on the minimum guaranteed availability of software and firmware updates, availability of spare parts and product support shall be indicated in the product information sheet as from Annex V of Regulation (EU) 2019/2013. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2019/2021/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2019/2021/oj I can't find all of it, but part of it (Samsung also did the same thing) is triggered by EU environment protection directives.

bwat49 2y ago

Samsung S24 has 7 years as well

kaba0 2y ago

Google can’t even keep a project alive for that long, so let’s not jump ahead. We will see when they actually deliver.

nolist_policy 2y ago
Um they already delivered, for example on 8 years of updates for past Chromebooks.