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It’s not for nothing that Europe and China have been outpacing the U.S. in terms of renewables deployment. The only country that sees military intervention as t

It’s not for nothing that Europe and China have been outpacing the U.S. in terms of renewables deployment. The only country that sees military intervention as the fix is us.

nine_k 2y ago
Europe, honestly, just can't afford that, even if they wanted. This is why e.g. Germany still has to buy natural gas from Russia, even while supporting the war effort of Ukraine against Russia.
- throwaway_qiwuw 2y ago
  Actually they built a bunch of LNG terminals very very quickly and now get most of their gas from that https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63709352 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63709352 You can see rapid progression to zero of Russian imports for natural gas in Germany if you scroll down to the info graphic in this article https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependence-imported-fossil-fuels https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependen... Germany is also famously anti nuclear
  - b3orn 2y ago
    Most gas in Germany comes via pipelines from Norway, the Netherlands and Belgium. LNG is at around 10%. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Gasversorgung/aktuelle_gasversorgung/_svg/Gasimporte/Gasimporte.html https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Gasversorgung/aktuelle_g...
lupusreal 2y ago
Not everything is about resources. Are you one of those people who thinks Taiwan is about chips? That conflict predates the chips, it's about face, prestige and reputation, but I often read people on HN saying it's all about chips. When all you have to explain the world is a hammer every problem will look like a nail. It's a form of cognitive bias.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  I haven't seen anyone suggest China wants to re-unify because of chips; I would say US's incentive to guard against reunification is supply-chain sensitive.
  - lupusreal 2y ago
    It's a popular narrative that Taiwan can deter an invasion by having their fabs rigged to blow up and thereby depriving China of that resource. But China would want to take Taiwan and terminate the ROC government even if the island were an underdeveloped backwater with nothing of value because it represents a bastion of resistance to the CCP, a hold out from their civil war. Party prestige, not resources. Furthermore, America has been invested in the defense of Taiwan for far longer than the chips have been involved. America needs to remain committed to Taiwan if it wants other countries, particularly Japan and South Korea, to take America's support seriously. Reputation, not resources.
    - CorrectHorseBat 2y ago
      I mean to remember reading that the chips are mostly there to stop an invasion. Taiwan was afraid of losing US support so the government set up a plan to make the country vital for the US economy, ensuring their protection. It's probably an exaggeration though
    - jazzyjackson 2y ago
      Fair enough. I have heard the narrative that the chips are economic leverage against an invasion and agree it's an insufficient deterrent.

It’s not for nothing that Europe and China have been outpacing the U.S. in terms of renewables deployment. The only country that sees military intervention as the fix is us.

nine_k 2y ago

Europe, honestly, just can't afford that, even if they wanted. This is why e.g. Germany still has to buy natural gas from Russia, even while supporting the war effort of Ukraine against Russia.

throwaway_qiwuw 2y ago
Actually they built a bunch of LNG terminals very very quickly and now get most of their gas from that https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63709352 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63709352 You can see rapid progression to zero of Russian imports for natural gas in Germany if you scroll down to the info graphic in this article https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependence-imported-fossil-fuels https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependen... Germany is also famously anti nuclear
- b3orn 2y ago
  Most gas in Germany comes via pipelines from Norway, the Netherlands and Belgium. LNG is at around 10%. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Gasversorgung/aktuelle_gasversorgung/_svg/Gasimporte/Gasimporte.html https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Gasversorgung/aktuelle_g...

lupusreal 2y ago

Not everything is about resources. Are you one of those people who thinks Taiwan is about chips? That conflict predates the chips, it's about face, prestige and reputation, but I often read people on HN saying it's all about chips. When all you have to explain the world is a hammer every problem will look like a nail. It's a form of cognitive bias.

jazzyjackson 2y ago
I haven't seen anyone suggest China wants to re-unify because of chips; I would say US's incentive to guard against reunification is supply-chain sensitive.
- lupusreal 2y ago
  It's a popular narrative that Taiwan can deter an invasion by having their fabs rigged to blow up and thereby depriving China of that resource. But China would want to take Taiwan and terminate the ROC government even if the island were an underdeveloped backwater with nothing of value because it represents a bastion of resistance to the CCP, a hold out from their civil war. Party prestige, not resources. Furthermore, America has been invested in the defense of Taiwan for far longer than the chips have been involved. America needs to remain committed to Taiwan if it wants other countries, particularly Japan and South Korea, to take America's support seriously. Reputation, not resources.
  - CorrectHorseBat 2y ago
    I mean to remember reading that the chips are mostly there to stop an invasion. Taiwan was afraid of losing US support so the government set up a plan to make the country vital for the US economy, ensuring their protection. It's probably an exaggeration though
  - jazzyjackson 2y ago
    Fair enough. I have heard the narrative that the chips are economic leverage against an invasion and agree it's an insufficient deterrent.