> I think this might be one of the reasons Ubuntu got popular back in the day That's absolutely one of the big reasons. I've been a Debian user since slink/pot

> I think this might be one of the reasons Ubuntu got popular back in the day That's absolutely one of the big reasons. I've been a Debian user since slink/potato. When Ubuntu first came out, it was still heavily Debian rebranded, with some newer packages, and better out-of-the-box driver support. I would some times choose it over Debian because of that. In time, Debian became more compatible and Ubuntu drifted out into what feels like VC-led product development. It's kind of sad how these days a lot of people default to Ubuntu even though Debian would likely serve them better.