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This makes a lot of sense. In the current political climate people feel afraid of getting punished for liking the wrong thing. But it’s nice for the person whos

This makes a lot of sense. In the current political climate people feel afraid of getting punished for liking the wrong thing. But it’s nice for the person whose post you liked to know who liked it. If you want to appreciate something publicly then that’s what reshare is for.

darklion 2y ago
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- Ukv 2y ago
  Being afraid of getting punished for liking the wrong thing could also be, for instance, an LGBT person in a non-accepting environment. There are many reasons for privacy that aren't anything to do with hate speech. Though, I think having it a toggle defaulting to private (like reddit votes) would be slightly better, for those who do intentionally want to share their likes.
  - Teever 2y ago
    Yeah sure, but is there anything to make you think that Elon Musk wants that versus what the person you're replying to is suggesting.
    - Ukv 2y ago
      I imagine Musk wants higher engagement metrics to brag about, and removing barriers to liking content is one way to achieve that - which applies to many people and not just Nazis.
      - Teever 2y ago
        Why are you making the assumption that Musk is thinking about this in rational business terms? Have you not been paying attention to the things he's been saying and doing for the past few years?
        Ukv 2y ago
        I've seen him boast plenty about various engagement stats, and seen the site make superficial changes to try to boost them. It seems probable to me that "find ways to increase these numbers" is a pressure he's putting on managers/engineers, and that "remove potential reservations to liking content" came largely from that. I'm not assuming any high-level rationality.
        Teever 2y ago
        Yeah and we've all seen him boast about a bunch of stuff, you can't take it at face value. I reject your assertion that Elon Musk made the employees at his platform because it would increase engagement or whatever and that he significantly factored in the impact that it would have on LGBTQ people.
        Ukv 2y ago
        > Yeah and we've all seen him boast about a bunch of stuff, you can't take it at face value. I don't take it as face value in terms of believing the site is becoming more popular. > I reject your assertion that Elon Musk made the employees at his platform because it would increase engagement or whatever It's pretty standard for sites to track and push for improving KPIs - "increase engagement or whatever" isn't an obscure aim. It's totally plausible for Musk to deviate from the norm, but everything I've seen so far suggests the direction he deviates from the norm is placing too much weight in certain figures resulting in some short-sighted decisions, as opposed to not valuing them. > and that he significantly factored in the impact that it would have on LGBTQ people. I don't claim he was thinking specifically of LGBTQ people.
        Teever 2y ago
        You're looking for faces in the clouds. It's definitely possible that there is rational intention behind what Musk is doing, but it's also possible that your mind is just seeing rational intention where there is none. After all his bullshit he does not get the benefit of the doubt about being rational and cogent. If he wants that he has to earn it, and I'm skeptical that he ever can.
- tracker1 2y ago
  Also, how am I going to keep Antifa/Communist types off the payroll now? edit: I'm not a proponent of this type of action, only pointing out that it isn't just "far right hate speech" that can be a target.
  - cherry_tree 2y ago
    They already fire people attempting to form unions, I doubt it’s from twitter likes.
    - tracker1 2y ago
      You might be surprised what major HR consulting firms find and flag. A friend got flagged when he announced his run for an HOA board position.
- gklitz 2y ago
  Yes, and Nazis can buy coffee at Starbucks and burgers at McDonalds, not very freedom afforded to Nazis is inherently bad just because it’s equally afforded to those with and without Nazi views.
- TurkishPoptart 2y ago
  Um, are you OK?
whoknowsidont 2y ago
> In the current political climate people feel afraid of getting punished for liking the wrong thing. Like what? Can you provide an example of what kind of "wrong things" people get unfairly punished for liking?
- thinkingemote 2y ago
  I think the root question is whether someone should get punished for liking a tweet. Many people may think that punishment should happen and thus the punishment is fair. Many people think that punishment shouldn't happen and thus the punishment isn't fair. Most people believe both things but that it differs according to their ingroup. Ultimately it is understanding and forgiveness that brings peace between people and groups and eventually dissolves the barriers between them.
- Ukv 2y ago
  This recent story comes to mind: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jon-stewart-faiza-shaheen-labour-b2553787.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jon-stewar... > The US late-night satirist Jon Stewart has responded after Britain’s Labour Party blocked left-wing academic Faiza Shaheen from standing as a candidate in the upcoming general election for liking a number of potentially offensive social media posts, one of which featured a clip from The Daily Show.
- playingalong 2y ago
  For some countries (think US, Israel, China) I saw people having reservations on their sm activity - i.e. liking something against the gov, might prevent you from entering the country. Or at least this is how the story goes.
- TurkishPoptart 2y ago
  Liking Elon Musk posts, for example, would warrant grandparent calling them a "Nazi".
lemoncookiechip 2y ago
Then give us the option to hide it, don't take away one of the best ways to find new content. This was already a feature for paid users, they could hide their likes, so if he really cared about privacy, he would give people the option, and have them hidden by default so that those who wish to have Likes can enable them. That way those less savvy or simply uninterested in going to the settings will have their accounts more private, and those who want it can have it.

darklion 2y ago

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Ukv 2y ago
Being afraid of getting punished for liking the wrong thing could also be, for instance, an LGBT person in a non-accepting environment. There are many reasons for privacy that aren't anything to do with hate speech. Though, I think having it a toggle defaulting to private (like reddit votes) would be slightly better, for those who do intentionally want to share their likes.
- Teever 2y ago
  Yeah sure, but is there anything to make you think that Elon Musk wants that versus what the person you're replying to is suggesting.
  - Ukv 2y ago
    I imagine Musk wants higher engagement metrics to brag about, and removing barriers to liking content is one way to achieve that - which applies to many people and not just Nazis.
    - Teever 2y ago
      Why are you making the assumption that Musk is thinking about this in rational business terms? Have you not been paying attention to the things he's been saying and doing for the past few years?
      - Ukv 2y ago
        I've seen him boast plenty about various engagement stats, and seen the site make superficial changes to try to boost them. It seems probable to me that "find ways to increase these numbers" is a pressure he's putting on managers/engineers, and that "remove potential reservations to liking content" came largely from that. I'm not assuming any high-level rationality.
        Teever 2y ago
        Yeah and we've all seen him boast about a bunch of stuff, you can't take it at face value. I reject your assertion that Elon Musk made the employees at his platform because it would increase engagement or whatever and that he significantly factored in the impact that it would have on LGBTQ people.
        Ukv 2y ago
        > Yeah and we've all seen him boast about a bunch of stuff, you can't take it at face value. I don't take it as face value in terms of believing the site is becoming more popular. > I reject your assertion that Elon Musk made the employees at his platform because it would increase engagement or whatever It's pretty standard for sites to track and push for improving KPIs - "increase engagement or whatever" isn't an obscure aim. It's totally plausible for Musk to deviate from the norm, but everything I've seen so far suggests the direction he deviates from the norm is placing too much weight in certain figures resulting in some short-sighted decisions, as opposed to not valuing them. > and that he significantly factored in the impact that it would have on LGBTQ people. I don't claim he was thinking specifically of LGBTQ people.
        Teever 2y ago
        You're looking for faces in the clouds. It's definitely possible that there is rational intention behind what Musk is doing, but it's also possible that your mind is just seeing rational intention where there is none. After all his bullshit he does not get the benefit of the doubt about being rational and cogent. If he wants that he has to earn it, and I'm skeptical that he ever can.
tracker1 2y ago
Also, how am I going to keep Antifa/Communist types off the payroll now? edit: I'm not a proponent of this type of action, only pointing out that it isn't just "far right hate speech" that can be a target.
- cherry_tree 2y ago
  They already fire people attempting to form unions, I doubt it’s from twitter likes.
  - tracker1 2y ago
    You might be surprised what major HR consulting firms find and flag. A friend got flagged when he announced his run for an HOA board position.
gklitz 2y ago
Yes, and Nazis can buy coffee at Starbucks and burgers at McDonalds, not very freedom afforded to Nazis is inherently bad just because it’s equally afforded to those with and without Nazi views.
TurkishPoptart 2y ago
Um, are you OK?

whoknowsidont 2y ago

> In the current political climate people feel afraid of getting punished for liking the wrong thing. Like what? Can you provide an example of what kind of "wrong things" people get unfairly punished for liking?

thinkingemote 2y ago
I think the root question is whether someone should get punished for liking a tweet. Many people may think that punishment should happen and thus the punishment is fair. Many people think that punishment shouldn't happen and thus the punishment isn't fair. Most people believe both things but that it differs according to their ingroup. Ultimately it is understanding and forgiveness that brings peace between people and groups and eventually dissolves the barriers between them.
Ukv 2y ago
This recent story comes to mind: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jon-stewart-faiza-shaheen-labour-b2553787.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jon-stewar... > The US late-night satirist Jon Stewart has responded after Britain’s Labour Party blocked left-wing academic Faiza Shaheen from standing as a candidate in the upcoming general election for liking a number of potentially offensive social media posts, one of which featured a clip from The Daily Show.
playingalong 2y ago
For some countries (think US, Israel, China) I saw people having reservations on their sm activity - i.e. liking something against the gov, might prevent you from entering the country. Or at least this is how the story goes.
TurkishPoptart 2y ago
Liking Elon Musk posts, for example, would warrant grandparent calling them a "Nazi".

lemoncookiechip 2y ago

Then give us the option to hide it, don't take away one of the best ways to find new content. This was already a feature for paid users, they could hide their likes, so if he really cared about privacy, he would give people the option, and have them hidden by default so that those who wish to have Likes can enable them. That way those less savvy or simply uninterested in going to the settings will have their accounts more private, and those who want it can have it.