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> What exactly is meant by "pursued us very aggressively"? You can pretty much bet it means "economic development" incentives of some sort, combined with a fai

> What exactly is meant by "pursued us very aggressively"? You can pretty much bet it means "economic development" incentives of some sort, combined with a fair amount of personal glad-handing. Intel probably got all sorts of tax-breaks, credits, grants, and FSM-knows what-else as part of the deal to pick Ohio. And the Governor and others probably took Intel execs to plenty of nice steak-houses, strip-joints, exclusive parties, yadda, yadda, yadda.

CoastalCoder 2y ago
I hope Pat Gelsinger has more integrity than that, but who knows.
- justin66 2y ago
  You could have a pretty bleak outlook on government-corporate graft and corruption and still recognize how ridiculous the idea of Mike DeWine and Pat Gelsinger in a strip club is.
  - tonetegeatinst 2y ago
    Perhaps they were bribed using high purity sand or the governor "gifted" some high purity silicon ingots? Unrealistic but it would be histerical to imagine sand or ingot bribery
  - mindcrime 2y ago
    still recognize how ridiculous the idea of Mike DeWine and Pat Gelsinger in a strip club is. I'm not literally claiming that we can state with certainty that Mike DeWine or Pat Gelsinger went to a strip club. That's just an example to illustrate a more general point.
    - justin66 2y ago
      I don't think you really illustrated anything. (but don't get me wrong, the image Mike DeWine and Pat Gelsinger in a strip club is extremely funny) Ohio politicians are rather more expensive than your comment implies. If one wants to dig into how actual corruption of this sort works in Ohio during its current GOP supermajority era, they ought to start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal
  - fennecfoxy 2y ago
    That's not what I'm worried about at least. I don't care if they go to a strip club, I care that their salaries are like $20m...for WHAT? WHAT? And we're just sitting here, voting stupidly, focussing on pointless race, gender, sexuality, immigration wars when they're taking everything from us. Sure CEOs have a role to play, but the job they do isn't worth anywhere near as much as they get paid and they have ZERO responsibility to run a company correctly.
- istjohn 2y ago
  Well Gov. Mike Dewine and the Ohio Republican lawmakers aren't above a little graft: > The Ohio nuclear bribery scandal (2020) is a political scandal in Ohio involving allegations that electric utility company FirstEnergy paid roughly $60 million to Generation Now, a 501(c)(4) organization purportedly controlled by Speaker of the Ohio House of Representatives Larry Householder in exchange for passing a $1.3 billion bailout for the nuclear power operator. ... > In July 2019, the House passed House Bill 6, which increased electricity rates and provided that money as a $150 million per year subsidy for the Perry and Davis–Besse nuclear plants, subsidized coal-fired power plants, and reduced subsidies for renewable energy and energy efficiency. Governor Mike DeWine signed the bill the day it passed.[0] 0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal

CoastalCoder 2y ago

I hope Pat Gelsinger has more integrity than that, but who knows.

justin66 2y ago
You could have a pretty bleak outlook on government-corporate graft and corruption and still recognize how ridiculous the idea of Mike DeWine and Pat Gelsinger in a strip club is.
- tonetegeatinst 2y ago
  Perhaps they were bribed using high purity sand or the governor "gifted" some high purity silicon ingots? Unrealistic but it would be histerical to imagine sand or ingot bribery
- mindcrime 2y ago
  still recognize how ridiculous the idea of Mike DeWine and Pat Gelsinger in a strip club is. I'm not literally claiming that we can state with certainty that Mike DeWine or Pat Gelsinger went to a strip club. That's just an example to illustrate a more general point.
  - justin66 2y ago
    I don't think you really illustrated anything. (but don't get me wrong, the image Mike DeWine and Pat Gelsinger in a strip club is extremely funny) Ohio politicians are rather more expensive than your comment implies. If one wants to dig into how actual corruption of this sort works in Ohio during its current GOP supermajority era, they ought to start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal
- fennecfoxy 2y ago
  That's not what I'm worried about at least. I don't care if they go to a strip club, I care that their salaries are like $20m...for WHAT? WHAT? And we're just sitting here, voting stupidly, focussing on pointless race, gender, sexuality, immigration wars when they're taking everything from us. Sure CEOs have a role to play, but the job they do isn't worth anywhere near as much as they get paid and they have ZERO responsibility to run a company correctly.
istjohn 2y ago
Well Gov. Mike Dewine and the Ohio Republican lawmakers aren't above a little graft: > The Ohio nuclear bribery scandal (2020) is a political scandal in Ohio involving allegations that electric utility company FirstEnergy paid roughly $60 million to Generation Now, a 501(c)(4) organization purportedly controlled by Speaker of the Ohio House of Representatives Larry Householder in exchange for passing a $1.3 billion bailout for the nuclear power operator. ... > In July 2019, the House passed House Bill 6, which increased electricity rates and provided that money as a $150 million per year subsidy for the Perry and Davis–Besse nuclear plants, subsidized coal-fired power plants, and reduced subsidies for renewable energy and energy efficiency. Governor Mike DeWine signed the bill the day it passed.[0] 0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal