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For other Ohioans who were wondering about this : ODOT started talking about the shipping routes a couple weeks ago and contrary to the article, we do have a ti

For other Ohioans who were wondering about this : ODOT started talking about the shipping routes a couple weeks ago and contrary to the article, we do have a timetable here : https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/about-us/traffic-advisories/district-9/superload https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/about-us/traffic-advisor... Im going between Cincinnati and Columbus several times over the next three weeks and am not looking forward to this even though it seems theyre taking a mostly out of the way route through the SE Ohio farming towns.

TimMeade 2y ago
It's going within about 10 miles of my mothers house... Not sure she would care... But i'll tell her!
Severian 2y ago
Oh god, 33 and Gender Road. That's not going to be pretty for traffic.
jcranmer 2y ago
I've put together a rough map of the route it's taking here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MPubWurLDu4XjMQJ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/MPubWurLDu4XjMQJ7 (unfortunately, the limitations of Google Maps keeps me from properly marking the final bouncing between Mink Rd and 310--it continues east past Mink Rd to go up OH-310, then returns to Mink Rd on US-40 then returns to OH-310 on OH-16 then back to Mink Rd on OH-161. Not sure why it's not sticking to one or the other way the entire last stretch.) If you're going between Cincinnati and Columbus, you should be absolutely nowhere near this route, as it's going nowhere near I-71.
- Arrath 2y ago
  > Not sure why it's not sticking to one or the other way the entire last stretch. Generally, low overpasses or turns that would be problematically tight. E: Checking street view, for example: that Mink Rd overpass over I-70 is likely either too narrow or not rated for the weight. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9506421,-82.7300744,3a,75y,13.17h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-NAUWhw7NV_9Cz443R_tJg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D-NAUWhw7NV_9Cz443R_tJg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D13.169001164822966%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9506421,-82.7300744,3a,75y,1...
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Upon first look at the map, I thought it had to have loaded wrong to not see it starting at what I expected as a port city. From someone that grew up around rivers that can pretty much run dry during the summers, it's amazing to me that a river runs that wide/deep that far inland to a land locked area to be able to accommodate a ship of this size.
    - jcranmer 2y ago
      I couldn't find the exact port they're starting at, so I guessed a boat ramp just to put a pin somewhere. The only places near Manchester, OH I could find that looked like they had some kind of port facilities were what appeared to be a power plant, although per Wikipedia, the plant has been decommissioned, so it's possible that part of the site was reused for the offloading facility. The Ohio River is famously an easily navigable river; there's only one natural falls along the route from Pittsburgh (the confluence of the Allegheny and the Monongahela rivers) to Cairo (where it joins the Mississippi). It provides the plurality of the water to the Mississippi River, a little less than half of the total discharge. I don't know where you grew up, but the river is more comparable (in European terms) to the Rhine, Danube, Dnieper, Don, or Volga than something like the Thames or the Seine rivers.
      - Arrath 2y ago
        > so it's possible that part of the site was reused for the offloading facility. Quite likely, there's a fair chance that large items for the power plant (like the steam turbines) were brought in by the river in the first place.
briffle 2y ago
I guess i'm not sure why they would transport this in the middle of the day. Seems like starting at 8pm would mean less snarl, less traffic to deal with, etc.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  In my experience, that's the difference between southern and northern state DOTs. Southern states do their work from 8pm-midnight+. Northern states do it from 9am-5pm.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Southern states have temps >100° so the night time work is also just for the survival of the workers. (only a slight exaggeration) Also, night time is dark. It makes things much more difficult than it needs to be at the convenience of some drivers in a car. Natural daylight is just so much better than having to have portable lights.
    - immibis 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - cityofdelusion 2y ago
        This is false, it is perfectly legal to give water to workers in the South (and in every other state).
        ethbr1 2y ago
        Parent is stretching a few bits of actual news to absurdity, for rhetorical effect. Conservative state governments battling liberal city/metro governments for power. E.g. https://apnews.com/article/texas-death-star-water-breaks-construction-workers-2654af3e256274dd43b52bdf149a0ebc https://apnews.com/article/texas-death-star-water-breaks-con... Some rather draconian "election reforms." E.g. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/politics/georgia-election-law-ban-food-water-voters-line/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/politics/georgia-election-law...

TimMeade 2y ago

It's going within about 10 miles of my mothers house... Not sure she would care... But i'll tell her!

Severian 2y ago

Oh god, 33 and Gender Road. That's not going to be pretty for traffic.

jcranmer 2y ago

I've put together a rough map of the route it's taking here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MPubWurLDu4XjMQJ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/MPubWurLDu4XjMQJ7 (unfortunately, the limitations of Google Maps keeps me from properly marking the final bouncing between Mink Rd and 310--it continues east past Mink Rd to go up OH-310, then returns to Mink Rd on US-40 then returns to OH-310 on OH-16 then back to Mink Rd on OH-161. Not sure why it's not sticking to one or the other way the entire last stretch.) If you're going between Cincinnati and Columbus, you should be absolutely nowhere near this route, as it's going nowhere near I-71.

Arrath 2y ago
> Not sure why it's not sticking to one or the other way the entire last stretch. Generally, low overpasses or turns that would be problematically tight. E: Checking street view, for example: that Mink Rd overpass over I-70 is likely either too narrow or not rated for the weight. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9506421,-82.7300744,3a,75y,13.17h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-NAUWhw7NV_9Cz443R_tJg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D-NAUWhw7NV_9Cz443R_tJg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D13.169001164822966%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9506421,-82.7300744,3a,75y,1...
- dylan604 2y ago
  Upon first look at the map, I thought it had to have loaded wrong to not see it starting at what I expected as a port city. From someone that grew up around rivers that can pretty much run dry during the summers, it's amazing to me that a river runs that wide/deep that far inland to a land locked area to be able to accommodate a ship of this size.
  - jcranmer 2y ago
    I couldn't find the exact port they're starting at, so I guessed a boat ramp just to put a pin somewhere. The only places near Manchester, OH I could find that looked like they had some kind of port facilities were what appeared to be a power plant, although per Wikipedia, the plant has been decommissioned, so it's possible that part of the site was reused for the offloading facility. The Ohio River is famously an easily navigable river; there's only one natural falls along the route from Pittsburgh (the confluence of the Allegheny and the Monongahela rivers) to Cairo (where it joins the Mississippi). It provides the plurality of the water to the Mississippi River, a little less than half of the total discharge. I don't know where you grew up, but the river is more comparable (in European terms) to the Rhine, Danube, Dnieper, Don, or Volga than something like the Thames or the Seine rivers.
    - Arrath 2y ago
      > so it's possible that part of the site was reused for the offloading facility. Quite likely, there's a fair chance that large items for the power plant (like the steam turbines) were brought in by the river in the first place.

briffle 2y ago

I guess i'm not sure why they would transport this in the middle of the day. Seems like starting at 8pm would mean less snarl, less traffic to deal with, etc.

ethbr1 2y ago
In my experience, that's the difference between southern and northern state DOTs. Southern states do their work from 8pm-midnight+. Northern states do it from 9am-5pm.
- dylan604 2y ago
  Southern states have temps >100° so the night time work is also just for the survival of the workers. (only a slight exaggeration) Also, night time is dark. It makes things much more difficult than it needs to be at the convenience of some drivers in a car. Natural daylight is just so much better than having to have portable lights.
  - immibis 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - cityofdelusion 2y ago
      This is false, it is perfectly legal to give water to workers in the South (and in every other state).
      - ethbr1 2y ago
        Parent is stretching a few bits of actual news to absurdity, for rhetorical effect. Conservative state governments battling liberal city/metro governments for power. E.g. https://apnews.com/article/texas-death-star-water-breaks-construction-workers-2654af3e256274dd43b52bdf149a0ebc https://apnews.com/article/texas-death-star-water-breaks-con... Some rather draconian "election reforms." E.g. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/politics/georgia-election-law-ban-food-water-voters-line/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/politics/georgia-election-law...