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The joke is repetitive and low effort. When will you have more original material? Spamming that meme is particularly ludicrous in this case though, given it's

by jsnell 2y ago

The joke is repetitive and low effort. When will you have more original material? Spamming that meme is particularly ludicrous in this case though, given it's a tool that's already been around for six years. That's probably longer than the average product from any company.

ToucanLoucan 2y ago
Of the 211 services on Google Graveyard, 85 of them were six years or older. So 40%. I will grant that it's repetitive, but it's also a solid reason to not use any products Google makes if you want to avoid the churn. And it's funny.
- pphysch 2y ago
  It's a solid reason to not use any SaaS. You might be drinking too much anti-Google koolaid if you think their product failure rate is any different than the rest of the field. At least with a Google SaaS it won't get suddenly ransomwared^W acquired by Oracle or Big Blue or Broadcom. It will die with dignity instead.
  - ToucanLoucan 2y ago
    > It's a solid reason to not use any SaaS. That's also true, and I do. > You might be drinking too much anti-Google koolaid if you think their product failure rate is any different than the rest of the field. The rate may not be different, but Google has demonstrated organizational willingness to obliterate SaaS products that have an audience but not a sufficiently large one to suit Google's model of revenue generation. > It will die with dignity instead. I don't care how my software dies, I care that it died and how much work it will take to replace.
    - pphysch 2y ago
      Well, the alternative for a megacorp like Google is to stop attempting to innovate, either top-down (like Apple aborting its entire car platform) or bottom-up by collapsing under the bloat of never making those hard choices (like many other sleepy giants).
wg0 2y ago
It's not a joke. It is a practical question that seems funny because of the circumstances.
- jsnell 2y ago
  How is it a practical question? You're taking on no long-term dependency by using this service. You'd use it to find a data set you need, and then use that data set. If the service were to go away tomorrow, you're still better off having used it than not having used it. Your comment was totally generic. Nothing about it was in any way specific to this service. The only specific part was your belief that it had just launched, when it was actually six years old. So it seems a bit hard to believe that you were genuinely interested in using this, and the only thing stopping you is having some kind of a guarantee on a minimum lifetime for the service. What you wrote has a much stronger pattern match to seeing what you mistakenly thought was a new product launch, and trying to get in the first "can't wait for this new product to be killed lol" comment. Have a look at the links to the previous HN discussions that ChrisArchitect posted on the toplevel. You can see exactly the same kind of generic low effort comments implying an imminent deprectation/sunset/shutdown in the threads from 2020 and 2021. And here we are in 2024.
  - wg0 2y ago
    Quality of comment - is your subjective opinion to which you're entitled to but the fact remains that people use Google products and they disappear. I shifted from Facebook to that Google+ and it got dead. I started using Google Read and then... Switched to Google Podcasts from CastBox and it got retired. Now Fitbit dashboard is being retired. And it's not my subjective opinion because I wasn't the only user using those.
    - jsnell 2y ago
      Sure, sure. I'm sure you'd have valuable things to post in threads about those services. But you still haven't written a word about this service, it's just repeating the same completely generic complaint that gets posted on HN literally thousands of timer per year.

by jsnell 2y ago

ToucanLoucan 2y ago

Of the 211 services on Google Graveyard, 85 of them were six years or older. So 40%. I will grant that it's repetitive, but it's also a solid reason to not use any products Google makes if you want to avoid the churn. And it's funny.

pphysch 2y ago
It's a solid reason to not use any SaaS. You might be drinking too much anti-Google koolaid if you think their product failure rate is any different than the rest of the field. At least with a Google SaaS it won't get suddenly ransomwared^W acquired by Oracle or Big Blue or Broadcom. It will die with dignity instead.
- ToucanLoucan 2y ago
  > It's a solid reason to not use any SaaS. That's also true, and I do. > You might be drinking too much anti-Google koolaid if you think their product failure rate is any different than the rest of the field. The rate may not be different, but Google has demonstrated organizational willingness to obliterate SaaS products that have an audience but not a sufficiently large one to suit Google's model of revenue generation. > It will die with dignity instead. I don't care how my software dies, I care that it died and how much work it will take to replace.
  - pphysch 2y ago
    Well, the alternative for a megacorp like Google is to stop attempting to innovate, either top-down (like Apple aborting its entire car platform) or bottom-up by collapsing under the bloat of never making those hard choices (like many other sleepy giants).

wg0 2y ago

It's not a joke. It is a practical question that seems funny because of the circumstances.

jsnell 2y ago
How is it a practical question? You're taking on no long-term dependency by using this service. You'd use it to find a data set you need, and then use that data set. If the service were to go away tomorrow, you're still better off having used it than not having used it. Your comment was totally generic. Nothing about it was in any way specific to this service. The only specific part was your belief that it had just launched, when it was actually six years old. So it seems a bit hard to believe that you were genuinely interested in using this, and the only thing stopping you is having some kind of a guarantee on a minimum lifetime for the service. What you wrote has a much stronger pattern match to seeing what you mistakenly thought was a new product launch, and trying to get in the first "can't wait for this new product to be killed lol" comment. Have a look at the links to the previous HN discussions that ChrisArchitect posted on the toplevel. You can see exactly the same kind of generic low effort comments implying an imminent deprectation/sunset/shutdown in the threads from 2020 and 2021. And here we are in 2024.
- wg0 2y ago
  Quality of comment - is your subjective opinion to which you're entitled to but the fact remains that people use Google products and they disappear. I shifted from Facebook to that Google+ and it got dead. I started using Google Read and then... Switched to Google Podcasts from CastBox and it got retired. Now Fitbit dashboard is being retired. And it's not my subjective opinion because I wasn't the only user using those.
  - jsnell 2y ago
    Sure, sure. I'm sure you'd have valuable things to post in threads about those services. But you still haven't written a word about this service, it's just repeating the same completely generic complaint that gets posted on HN literally thousands of timer per year.