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$200k? Do you live in a place where this is considered a bad salary?

by palata 2y ago

CSMastermind 2y ago
It's normally considered a bad salary in comparison to what you could be making. I won't speak for the poster but I left a ~$1m / year TC job ($300k base the rest RSUs) to join a startup. I have a good salary compared to the population at large but it's a fraction of what I could be making on the hope that my equity turns into something meaningful that makes up for it.
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- palata 2y ago
  I wish I knew how to get to $200k. Not even mentioning 1m/year, that seems absolutely insane to me.
  - hedora 2y ago
    The easiest way is to move to the SF area. However, you'll end up spending most of the after-tax pay on housing, food, etc. For example, rent on a 1 bedroom apartment in the suburbs is going to be $30-60K per year: https://www.zillow.com/santa-clara-ca/apartments/1-bedrooms/ https://www.zillow.com/santa-clara-ca/apartments/1-bedrooms/ The cost of pretty much everything around here reflects that cost of living. Businesses have to pay workers enough to allow them to live in the area.
    - rsanek 2y ago
      you don't have to. I lived in south bay with $30-40k in total annual expenses for years. that said, i was single and made sacrifices to save.
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    If you live in the US and work as a software engineer at a top tech company it’s very straightforward to make more than 200k. Otherwise, it’s much harder.
  - bagels 2y ago
    Where do you live, what kind of company do you work for? Look at levels.fyi for data on what companies in the bay are paying.
BiteCode_dev 2y ago
It's not just a matter of place, but what you can have if you work for Google instead. I can make $200k as a freelancer in France, but much more as a Google employee.
- palata 2y ago
  $200k is extremely high for France. Even half of that is high. I wish I could do that.
  - BiteCode_dev 2y ago
    It's very influenced by what you do. Today I'm giving a training to 3 people, each paying 2600 for this training. It means this week they get billed 7800 in total. If you do that for 30 weeks (not even a full year), you get to 234000. 15 years ago, my team leader was already doing $15K month as salary, and it was a startup in Sophia, not Google, and a long time ago. So it's all possible, but indeed, not the average situation. The median dev is underpaid in France: https://www.bitecode.dev/p/french-competitiveness-in-it https://www.bitecode.dev/p/french-competitiveness-in-it
- lelandfe 2y ago
  Levels.fyi has no Paris salaries @ Google >$292k (for a 12y tenure) https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater-paris-area?search=google#:~:text=Recently%20Submitted%20Salaries https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater...

$200k? Do you live in a place where this is considered a bad salary?

by palata 2y ago

$200k? Do you live in a place where this is considered a bad salary?

It's normally considered a bad salary in comparison to what you could be making. I won't speak for the poster but I left a ~$1m / year TC job ($300k base the rest RSUs) to join a startup. I have a good salary compared to the population at large but it's a fraction of what I could be making on the hope that my equity turns into something meaningful that makes up for it.

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palata 2y ago
I wish I knew how to get to $200k. Not even mentioning 1m/year, that seems absolutely insane to me.
- hedora 2y ago
  The easiest way is to move to the SF area. However, you'll end up spending most of the after-tax pay on housing, food, etc. For example, rent on a 1 bedroom apartment in the suburbs is going to be $30-60K per year: https://www.zillow.com/santa-clara-ca/apartments/1-bedrooms/ https://www.zillow.com/santa-clara-ca/apartments/1-bedrooms/ The cost of pretty much everything around here reflects that cost of living. Businesses have to pay workers enough to allow them to live in the area.
  - rsanek 2y ago
    you don't have to. I lived in south bay with $30-40k in total annual expenses for years. that said, i was single and made sacrifices to save.
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  If you live in the US and work as a software engineer at a top tech company it’s very straightforward to make more than 200k. Otherwise, it’s much harder.
- bagels 2y ago
  Where do you live, what kind of company do you work for? Look at levels.fyi for data on what companies in the bay are paying.

BiteCode_dev 2y ago

It's not just a matter of place, but what you can have if you work for Google instead. I can make $200k as a freelancer in France, but much more as a Google employee.

palata 2y ago
$200k is extremely high for France. Even half of that is high. I wish I could do that.
- BiteCode_dev 2y ago
  It's very influenced by what you do. Today I'm giving a training to 3 people, each paying 2600 for this training. It means this week they get billed 7800 in total. If you do that for 30 weeks (not even a full year), you get to 234000. 15 years ago, my team leader was already doing $15K month as salary, and it was a startup in Sophia, not Google, and a long time ago. So it's all possible, but indeed, not the average situation. The median dev is underpaid in France: https://www.bitecode.dev/p/french-competitiveness-in-it https://www.bitecode.dev/p/french-competitiveness-in-it
lelandfe 2y ago
Levels.fyi has no Paris salaries @ Google >$292k (for a 12y tenure) https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater-paris-area?search=google#:~:text=Recently%20Submitted%20Salaries https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater...