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I don't think that (even) more developers for G+ will solve ... anything.

by franze 14y ago

speg 14y ago
No, but more users might.
- franze 14y ago
  buying a user base + migrating them to another platform is a very slippery slope (privacy and PR wise). think it's mostly about developers.
  - creativityland 14y ago
    Nothing G+ won't try at this point ;)
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      Oh look, the tired "G+ sucks/is desperate" meme.
    - duaneb 14y ago
      G+ is still pretty damn young. I'm sceptical they can upset facebook, but it's not as if it's a ghostland.
Karunamon 14y ago
The "G+ is dead/dying" canard again? Really?
- ericd 14y ago
  Honest question - is it not?
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    No. I'm just as tired of seeing it repeated here as I was hearing people repeat "Twitter is dumb and useless and not going anywhere" 3 years ago. Just because you don't use it or subscribe to people that use it, doesn't mean the rest of us didn't take the time to actually utilize it.
    - mibbitier 14y ago
      People said this about Wave as well. I'm not convinced. I tried google+, I was really impressed with the UI. I used it for a few days, then a few weeks later I suddenly remembered it existed. I don't think I'm alone. Presumably they still count me as a 'user', even though I haven't used Google+ for ages.
      - drivebyacct2 14y ago
        Why do you care if they include you in their user count? Why does it bother you? I love Google+. I love the UI. I love the interaction I have with the people I follow. They post good content, it's well featured, it's fast on mobile (which is something its competitors flatly can not claim) and the Circles model works really well. For me. Funny, I also got a shockingly huge amount of value out of Wave. It was for very specific group-school-project sorts of things, but it has been irreplacable in terms of simplicity and strange overlapping feature set. In fact, as others have noted, many features that people wish to see in a "futuristic email 2.0" were embodied by Google Wave. I guess I reject the notion that since you don't like/use it, no one does.
        mibbitier 14y ago
        > "Why do you care if they include you in their user count? Why does it bother you?" It bothers me if they're being dishonest. Tell me how many people actively shared things on Google+ yesterday. Telling me how many people have ever used Google+ in the past isn't useful, and is going to vastly distort peoples perception. > "I guess I reject the notion that since you don't like/use it, no one does." Sure, valid point. I'd reply that out of all my facebook friends, a few tried google+, and none actively use it that I know of. So it's not just me. It's also telling that you got a huge amount of value out of Wave as well as plus. Perhaps Google+ isn't that much different to Wave... in which case it's doomed. Release Wave -> Failing -> Buy Etherpad -> Wave fails Release Google+ -> Failing -> Buy Meebo -> Google+ fails Don't get me wrong, I love Google. But I can see history repeating itself here...
- franze 14y ago
  no, just that the G+ product issues can not be solved with more developers. more developers do not fix a product. it says nothing about the usage nr. of G+. but that the G+ has product issues is clear as day, even to - most - fanboys.

I don't think that (even) more developers for G+ will solve ... anything.

by franze 14y ago

I don't think that (even) more developers for G+ will solve ... anything.

speg 14y ago

No, but more users might.

franze 14y ago
buying a user base + migrating them to another platform is a very slippery slope (privacy and PR wise). think it's mostly about developers.
- creativityland 14y ago
  Nothing G+ won't try at this point ;)
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    Oh look, the tired "G+ sucks/is desperate" meme.
  - duaneb 14y ago
    G+ is still pretty damn young. I'm sceptical they can upset facebook, but it's not as if it's a ghostland.

Karunamon 14y ago

The "G+ is dead/dying" canard again? Really?

ericd 14y ago
Honest question - is it not?
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  No. I'm just as tired of seeing it repeated here as I was hearing people repeat "Twitter is dumb and useless and not going anywhere" 3 years ago. Just because you don't use it or subscribe to people that use it, doesn't mean the rest of us didn't take the time to actually utilize it.
  - mibbitier 14y ago
    People said this about Wave as well. I'm not convinced. I tried google+, I was really impressed with the UI. I used it for a few days, then a few weeks later I suddenly remembered it existed. I don't think I'm alone. Presumably they still count me as a 'user', even though I haven't used Google+ for ages.
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      Why do you care if they include you in their user count? Why does it bother you? I love Google+. I love the UI. I love the interaction I have with the people I follow. They post good content, it's well featured, it's fast on mobile (which is something its competitors flatly can not claim) and the Circles model works really well. For me. Funny, I also got a shockingly huge amount of value out of Wave. It was for very specific group-school-project sorts of things, but it has been irreplacable in terms of simplicity and strange overlapping feature set. In fact, as others have noted, many features that people wish to see in a "futuristic email 2.0" were embodied by Google Wave. I guess I reject the notion that since you don't like/use it, no one does.
      - mibbitier 14y ago
        > "Why do you care if they include you in their user count? Why does it bother you?" It bothers me if they're being dishonest. Tell me how many people actively shared things on Google+ yesterday. Telling me how many people have ever used Google+ in the past isn't useful, and is going to vastly distort peoples perception. > "I guess I reject the notion that since you don't like/use it, no one does." Sure, valid point. I'd reply that out of all my facebook friends, a few tried google+, and none actively use it that I know of. So it's not just me. It's also telling that you got a huge amount of value out of Wave as well as plus. Perhaps Google+ isn't that much different to Wave... in which case it's doomed. Release Wave -> Failing -> Buy Etherpad -> Wave fails Release Google+ -> Failing -> Buy Meebo -> Google+ fails Don't get me wrong, I love Google. But I can see history repeating itself here...
franze 14y ago
no, just that the G+ product issues can not be solved with more developers. more developers do not fix a product. it says nothing about the usage nr. of G+. but that the G+ has product issues is clear as day, even to - most - fanboys.