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>Monthly price for USA-only unlimited talk/text + 5G/LTE data is $15/5GB, $25/8GB, $35/12GB + taxes/fees. By global standards, that is hilariously expensive. H

>Monthly price for USA-only unlimited talk/text + 5G/LTE data is $15/5GB, $25/8GB, $35/12GB + taxes/fees. By global standards, that is hilariously expensive. Here in the UK, I pay $13/mo for unlimited talk/text and 100GB of 5G data. I can get truly unlimited data for less than $22/mo. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cheap-mobile-finder/sim-only/ https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cheap-mobile-finder/sim-on...

bruceb 2y ago
The US covers a lot more land. More towers to put up. Higher wages to pay. Less density than UK.
murderfs 2y ago
By global standards, the United States has hilariously low density and has hilariously high incomes, which means it's significantly more expensive to maintain a network. You're comparing a network that doesn't have 5G coverage in towns 20 miles away from the center of London [1] to one that has coverage over a gigantic proportion of the area that actually contains people at any given time. [2] 1: https://www.nperf.com/en/map/GB/-/164526.Vodafone-Mobile/signal?ll=51.430512064768656&lg=-0.204620361328125&zoom=9 https://www.nperf.com/en/map/GB/-/164526.Vodafone-Mobile/sig... 2: https://www.nperf.com/en/map/US/-/85.T-Mobile-inc-Sprint/signal?ll=37.54411419454302&lg=-99.25048828125&zoom=5 https://www.nperf.com/en/map/US/-/85.T-Mobile-inc-Sprint/sig...
- jdietrich 2y ago
  If you exclude legacy CDMA sites, the US and UK have basically the same number of cell sites per capita. https://opencellid.org/stats.php https://opencellid.org/stats.php
  - murderfs 2y ago
    "Please note that Logical network numbers are only loosely correlated with physical infrastructure like cell towers."
  - icehawk 2y ago
    Is cell sites per capita a relevant measure?
walterbell 2y ago
US postpaid service for a single line is $65+.
throwup238 2y ago
Even by US standard it’s ridiculous. AT&T offers a $25/mo prepaid plan with 16gb 5G and unlimited 4G. Not an MVNO but AT&T directly. The worst part though is TMobile’s predatory billing practices. They lie through their teeth about fees and prices when you sign up and it’s absolutely impossible to understand what the hell is going on with their billing. Fuck TMobile.

bruceb 2y ago

The US covers a lot more land. More towers to put up. Higher wages to pay. Less density than UK.

murderfs 2y ago

By global standards, the United States has hilariously low density and has hilariously high incomes, which means it's significantly more expensive to maintain a network. You're comparing a network that doesn't have 5G coverage in towns 20 miles away from the center of London [1] to one that has coverage over a gigantic proportion of the area that actually contains people at any given time. [2] 1: https://www.nperf.com/en/map/GB/-/164526.Vodafone-Mobile/signal?ll=51.430512064768656&lg=-0.204620361328125&zoom=9 https://www.nperf.com/en/map/GB/-/164526.Vodafone-Mobile/sig... 2: https://www.nperf.com/en/map/US/-/85.T-Mobile-inc-Sprint/signal?ll=37.54411419454302&lg=-99.25048828125&zoom=5 https://www.nperf.com/en/map/US/-/85.T-Mobile-inc-Sprint/sig...

jdietrich 2y ago
If you exclude legacy CDMA sites, the US and UK have basically the same number of cell sites per capita. https://opencellid.org/stats.php https://opencellid.org/stats.php
- murderfs 2y ago
  "Please note that Logical network numbers are only loosely correlated with physical infrastructure like cell towers."
- icehawk 2y ago
  Is cell sites per capita a relevant measure?

walterbell 2y ago

US postpaid service for a single line is $65+.

throwup238 2y ago

Even by US standard it’s ridiculous. AT&T offers a $25/mo prepaid plan with 16gb 5G and unlimited 4G. Not an MVNO but AT&T directly. The worst part though is TMobile’s predatory billing practices. They lie through their teeth about fees and prices when you sign up and it’s absolutely impossible to understand what the hell is going on with their billing. Fuck TMobile.