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Unless you're grinding in a startup the worklife balance is way better in the USA for tech. Income is so low in Ireland especially in terms of housing cost, yes

Unless you're grinding in a startup the worklife balance is way better in the USA for tech. Income is so low in Ireland especially in terms of housing cost, yes it's even worse then the bay, that she's probably just making a mistake in the math somewhere. I say this as an Irish citizen. I've done the math dozen of times.

bragr 2y ago
>Unless you're grinding in a startup the worklife balance is way better in the USA for tech That doesn't really pass the sniff test without some supporting data, given the work culture norms and labor laws that I'm familiar with. Just quickly searching for one example, full time employees in Ireland get 4 weeks of vacation a year, and in the US you'll be lucky to take 2-3 weeks a year, and not legally mandated either. Depending on the state, you may not even be entitled to sick days.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  OP said "for tech". Tech jobs have long had much better vacation time and other benefits than "regular" jobs in the US. However, with the way things are going, this may not last and I wouldn't count on it. Also, it seems to depend a lot on employer: working at a big place like Apple or Google will of course get you lots of vacation time, but working at some shitty little 30-person company will probably get you the regular 2 weeks, and these days, the good jobs are probably a lot more scarce, forcing more tech employees to work at those shitty companies.
  - romwell 2y ago
    >Tech jobs have long had much better vacation time Yeah, no. Google is 3 weeks/year, and has been that way for as far as I have known it. KLA+ (formerly, KLA-Tencor) has several (IIRC, 3) weeks of sick days and vacation COMBINED, so if you get sick, no vacation for you. Those are representative examples.
    - InfamousRece 2y ago
      There are also quite a few companies that offer “unlimited” vacation, but in practice they pressure/shame their employees not to take “too much” time off.
      - romwell 2y ago
        When Cadence switched to "unlimited" vacations, my manager straight up told me that he expects it to be three weeks unless I exceed his expectations, or it will adversely affect my performance reviews. Which is how it effectively works, except usually managers are less direct.
    - Nimitz14 2y ago
      That doesn't seem right. I have more at amazon. Meta also has more. I've never heard of KLA. Just looked it up and the number of days increases with seniority at Google.
      - romwell 2y ago
        >never heard of KLA KLA, ASML, TSMC are companies that are huge globally in their fields. The field being semiconductor design and fabrication. Whatever device you're reading this on almost certainly has components made with machinery by one (or all) of those.
        shiroiushi 2y ago
        With all the stuff about chips and fabs and Taiwan in the news in the past year, you'd have to be living under a rock to not know who TSMC and ASML are. However, I too have never heard of KLA. Somehow it never gets mentioned alongside those other companies. Maybe it's similar to how everyone knows about Microsoft and Apple, and even my mother knows what Linux is, but almost no one has heard of Green Hills Software?
        romwell 2y ago
CalRobert 2y ago
Ireland has such a horrendous housing situation that I left for another country with a housing crisis (the Netherlands) and it felt like easy mode by comparison. €2450 for a nice 5 bed house a 20 minute train ride from Amsterdam Centraal vs some mouldy dump in Kildare that you need to fight off 100 people to get.

bragr 2y ago

>Unless you're grinding in a startup the worklife balance is way better in the USA for tech That doesn't really pass the sniff test without some supporting data, given the work culture norms and labor laws that I'm familiar with. Just quickly searching for one example, full time employees in Ireland get 4 weeks of vacation a year, and in the US you'll be lucky to take 2-3 weeks a year, and not legally mandated either. Depending on the state, you may not even be entitled to sick days.

shiroiushi 2y ago
OP said "for tech". Tech jobs have long had much better vacation time and other benefits than "regular" jobs in the US. However, with the way things are going, this may not last and I wouldn't count on it. Also, it seems to depend a lot on employer: working at a big place like Apple or Google will of course get you lots of vacation time, but working at some shitty little 30-person company will probably get you the regular 2 weeks, and these days, the good jobs are probably a lot more scarce, forcing more tech employees to work at those shitty companies.
- romwell 2y ago
  >Tech jobs have long had much better vacation time Yeah, no. Google is 3 weeks/year, and has been that way for as far as I have known it. KLA+ (formerly, KLA-Tencor) has several (IIRC, 3) weeks of sick days and vacation COMBINED, so if you get sick, no vacation for you. Those are representative examples.
  - InfamousRece 2y ago
    There are also quite a few companies that offer “unlimited” vacation, but in practice they pressure/shame their employees not to take “too much” time off.
    - romwell 2y ago
      When Cadence switched to "unlimited" vacations, my manager straight up told me that he expects it to be three weeks unless I exceed his expectations, or it will adversely affect my performance reviews. Which is how it effectively works, except usually managers are less direct.
  - Nimitz14 2y ago
    That doesn't seem right. I have more at amazon. Meta also has more. I've never heard of KLA. Just looked it up and the number of days increases with seniority at Google.
    - romwell 2y ago
      >never heard of KLA KLA, ASML, TSMC are companies that are huge globally in their fields. The field being semiconductor design and fabrication. Whatever device you're reading this on almost certainly has components made with machinery by one (or all) of those.
      - shiroiushi 2y ago
        With all the stuff about chips and fabs and Taiwan in the news in the past year, you'd have to be living under a rock to not know who TSMC and ASML are. However, I too have never heard of KLA. Somehow it never gets mentioned alongside those other companies. Maybe it's similar to how everyone knows about Microsoft and Apple, and even my mother knows what Linux is, but almost no one has heard of Green Hills Software?
        romwell 2y ago

CalRobert 2y ago

Ireland has such a horrendous housing situation that I left for another country with a housing crisis (the Netherlands) and it felt like easy mode by comparison. €2450 for a nice 5 bed house a 20 minute train ride from Amsterdam Centraal vs some mouldy dump in Kildare that you need to fight off 100 people to get.