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A rather transparent hit piece on the eve of the shareholder vote.
by hiking_everyday 2y ago
A rather transparent hit piece on the eve of the shareholder vote.
- SideQuark 2y agoIf the stories are true, shareholders should be aware of Musk's behavior since they're deciding company business.
- mlindner 2y agoWhat "behavior"? The only thing violated here was the standard corporate policies that some companies have.
- therobots927 2y agoYeah, but to be fair this type of behavior is a real liability. Where would you draw the line of acceptability? Bill Clinton was impeached for very similar things…
- friend_and_foe 2y agoBill Clinton was impeached for perjury in front of congress. This type of behavior can be a liability, yes. It seems Musk is attracted to highly intelligent and capable women, and the work he does is in need of as many of them as it can get, so engaging with them is pretty likely to cause conflicts with company goals. These are people's personal lives. We don't know what went on. What is acceptable? Whatever the participants find acceptable. It seems to me though from the article that none of the women being discussed here made a thing of it themselves, this seems like friends of theirs sending text messages to a newspaper. The only one of these stories actually involving the person in question is the flight attendant one, and while I can believe that it happened, I don't buy for a second that spacex cut her hours back over it. To me, this all looks like a nothing burger that some editor thought would be a juicy story, or that someone paid to have published. "Musk dates some women, they have relationship problems." "Billionaire propositions woman for a financially rewarding sexual arrangement." Big deal.
- therobots927 2y agoYou do realize that this is a standard that countless CEOs have been held to for a while now? McDonald’s CEO: https://www.npr.org/2021/12/16/1064943356/mcdonalds-ceo-settlement https://www.npr.org/2021/12/16/1064943356/mcdonalds-ceo-sett... CNN CEO: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2022/02/02/jeff-zucker-cnn-chief-resigns-over-sexual-relationship-with-subordinate/9315343002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2022/02/02/j... NBCUniversal CEO: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/24/media/jeff-shell-sexual-harassment/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/24/media/jeff-shell-sexual-haras... And so on… has Musk been confirmed to meet this level of misbehavior? For some of the above examples the answer is yes, for others no. But where there’s smoke there’s fire. It seems to me like you’re trying to move the Overton window on what is deemed acceptable CEO behavior.
- friend_and_foe 2y agoMaybe I am, but I don't think it's reprehensible for someone to have intimate relations with willing people. Doing other things, like firing people for ending relationships, or harassing people because they're unwilling, are reprehensible, but I don't see any real evidence of that from this article, only a single claim that is unverified and sounds outlandish.
- corinroyal 2y agoAnd so would be easy for you to refute, should you wish to contribute to the conversation.
- heroprotagonist 2y agoThis is helpful context for an article with a headline that seems to suggest something is wrong but simultaneously is very careful to not make an actual allegation of wrong-doing. I only have the headline to go from, since it's behind a paywall, but headlines like this are often an indicator that the article will also be designed around a suggestive narrative and 'fitting' anecdotes from a partial perspective. I don't care one way or the other about Musk, and without the context of a pending shareholder vote the article just seems like the WSJ equivalent of a celebrity tabloid article that's designed to catch the attention of people who don't like the guy. It could be either, or neither.. but it's a good practice to think about the presentation and context of information you consume, and a shareholder vote is relevant to that.