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No. it's not opt out. it's "how do you want to share it?". Tell me where exactly this "opt-out" is, i would like to know. No, I don't give permission by using

No. it's not opt out. it's "how do you want to share it?". Tell me where exactly this "opt-out" is, i would like to know. No, I don't give permission by using the site. That's blatanly dishonest to say that. They already mention that already. I understand you wrote the new TOS, but I'm not sure how you are understanding Goog's TOS. It's always opt-in. probably the only opt out i know of is from their search crawler for websites.

koeselitz 14y ago
Sorry for saying so, but this seems like a weird axe to grind. I think your initial comment got downvoted because it seemed sort of like a backhanded criticism; but now it seems sort of like you just wanted to show that you'd read Google's TOS. I am still not sure what Google's TOS has to do with EveryMe's TOS. Either way, "opt-in" or "opt-out" is in this case a technical distinction. EveryMe's sharing of data isn't opt-anything. They don't do it. Period. Doesn't that constitute a difference?
- roopeshv 14y ago
  i would say it's a difference, but opt-in is always a good way to go. I always (atleast, i think so) I make most optins consciously). I would say everyme has a good TOS/Priv Stmt, compared to google, if it says "this privacy policy stands forever, and will not be changed". I know you can't promise that, and I will not ask you to, but that's only case where I would have more trust for keeping the data with you compared to google's. Or I would trust goog's policies better it addresses the legal aspect of it, while being humanly readable and understandable. The only thing that differentiates you (as in everyme, most references are same)and goog is they have to cover base for billions of people they are handling. Even if it's snarky (though I didn't make it so), why would someone downvote it rather than disagree with a comment (HN guidelines please). Please downvote if it doesn't add to discussion. What we had above is discussion.

koeselitz 14y ago

Sorry for saying so, but this seems like a weird axe to grind. I think your initial comment got downvoted because it seemed sort of like a backhanded criticism; but now it seems sort of like you just wanted to show that you'd read Google's TOS. I am still not sure what Google's TOS has to do with EveryMe's TOS. Either way, "opt-in" or "opt-out" is in this case a technical distinction. EveryMe's sharing of data isn't opt-anything. They don't do it. Period. Doesn't that constitute a difference?

roopeshv 14y ago
i would say it's a difference, but opt-in is always a good way to go. I always (atleast, i think so) I make most optins consciously). I would say everyme has a good TOS/Priv Stmt, compared to google, if it says "this privacy policy stands forever, and will not be changed". I know you can't promise that, and I will not ask you to, but that's only case where I would have more trust for keeping the data with you compared to google's. Or I would trust goog's policies better it addresses the legal aspect of it, while being humanly readable and understandable. The only thing that differentiates you (as in everyme, most references are same)and goog is they have to cover base for billions of people they are handling. Even if it's snarky (though I didn't make it so), why would someone downvote it rather than disagree with a comment (HN guidelines please). Please downvote if it doesn't add to discussion. What we had above is discussion.