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A tangential nitpick: Scientists, Engineers who are not of the Software persuasion, Accountants, and Lawyers, to name just a few, also make up people who work "

A tangential nitpick: Scientists, Engineers who are not of the Software persuasion, Accountants, and Lawyers, to name just a few, also make up people who work "outside the SWE field". Almost all of these people are interested in thinking; a few of them will probably not be, just as one finds a few people working in the SWE field being reluctant to think. There is a very good reason why people -- even technically minded people -- have trouble with changing UIs, and it is not about them not wanting to think. Consider that the UI could be part of a workflow that is more of a side annoyance than their main job, and that they would rather conserve their mental bandwidth for problems that are more important to them. A doctor shouldn't have to get used to a new timesheet UI just because a designer woke up one fine morning with a new thought.

analog31 2y ago
I've noticed that even the SWE's are annoyed by the UI's of typical enterprise software and websites, and by gratuitous UI churn.
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- okwhateverdude 2y ago
  Only because I, as a SWE, know how that sausage is made. Either it is some misguided desire to show a customer that you're working on the product ("See, we're still alive, please keep paying us money!"), some PM or UI designer stuffing their promo packet ("Look at how much increased engagement we have!" by making users now click twice as much), or to satisfy the whim of some c-level sponsor. Rarely is the UI actually improved or made more efficient or actual user research conducted. Prime example is the last Slack UI update from last year that introduced a ton of dead space and other annoyances. Like, the tool is for reading and writing text. I want to see the text. Why did you shrink the text area for that stupid dead space on the left? Guarantee they are measuring useless metrics like clicking on those stupid buttons on the left now and patting themselves on the back on how awesome and useful their change was.
  - m0llusk 2y ago
    That's great, but can you make the Buy button bigger?

analog31 2y ago

I've noticed that even the SWE's are annoyed by the UI's of typical enterprise software and websites, and by gratuitous UI churn.

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okwhateverdude 2y ago
Only because I, as a SWE, know how that sausage is made. Either it is some misguided desire to show a customer that you're working on the product ("See, we're still alive, please keep paying us money!"), some PM or UI designer stuffing their promo packet ("Look at how much increased engagement we have!" by making users now click twice as much), or to satisfy the whim of some c-level sponsor. Rarely is the UI actually improved or made more efficient or actual user research conducted. Prime example is the last Slack UI update from last year that introduced a ton of dead space and other annoyances. Like, the tool is for reading and writing text. I want to see the text. Why did you shrink the text area for that stupid dead space on the left? Guarantee they are measuring useless metrics like clicking on those stupid buttons on the left now and patting themselves on the back on how awesome and useful their change was.
- m0llusk 2y ago
  That's great, but can you make the Buy button bigger?