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I just tried the first puzzle and I can't get it right. I think my solution makes logical sense and I explain why the patterns are consistent with the input, b

I just tried the first puzzle and I can't get it right. I think my solution makes logical sense and I explain why the patterns are consistent with the input, but it says its wrong. I'm either a lot dumber than I thought or they need to do a better job of vetting their tests.

mikeknoop 2y ago
(You can direct link to a task like this: https://arcprize.org/play?task=009d5c81 https://arcprize.org/play?task=009d5c81 in case you want to share!)
saati 2y ago
It's pretty easy, just follow the second example with the colors from the test input. (if it's the same puzzle 00576224 for you too)
- kenjackson 2y ago
  https://arcprize.org/play?task=00576224 https://arcprize.org/play?task=00576224 Yes the same puzzle. And I followed the second example. This was my solution: GRG OBO RGR B is the cyan like blue color. My solution looks right, but it says it’s wrong.
  - halter73 2y ago
    You need to resize the output grid to 6x6.
    - kenjackson 2y ago
      How come? The pattern should work for any size grid.
      - bigyikes 2y ago
        You might be technically correct, but if you extend that logic, why not just make the grid 1x1 and select a single color? The grid size is part of the pattern in the same way that the colors are part of the pattern. It’s not just a color pattern, it’s a generalized mapping of input to output. In short: you need to resize the grid because that’s what the examples do.
        johndough 2y ago
        > why not just make the grid 1x1 and select a single color? For two reasons: 1. The initially suggested grid size was 3x3. 2. Filling in a 3x3 grid is sufficient to show that you understood the pattern, but filling in a 1x1 (or even 2x2) grid is insufficient. Requiring the user fill in a larger grid is a waste of time. The existence of the grid size selector would still make sense in cases where a 2x2 grid would be sufficient to show the solution, so it is not obvious at all that a 6x6 grid should be chosen. > The grid size is part of the pattern in the same way that the colors are part of the pattern. To understand a pattern, you have to see at least two valid inputs and corresponding outputs. For the first example, a valid example for the expected output grid size is missing. I arrived at the "correct" conclusion eventually, but the only indicator was that the reading direction for the UI was absolutely ridiculous ( https://i.imgur.com/CuQ2z2N.png https://i.imgur.com/CuQ2z2N.png ), suggesting that the authors did not think this through properly, so the solution had to be weird as well.
        lucianbr 2y ago
        The fact that two intelligent beings are debating what the correct answer is shows that there is no fixed correct answer that proves "intelligence". This is IQ tests all over again. Actually testing how alike you think to the author of the test.
        wantsanagent 2y ago
        Twist: bigyikes is an LLM!
        sashank_1509 2y ago
    - Tepix 2y ago
      Yeah into the same problem but managed to find the solution by resizing it.
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  - Foolandmore 2y ago
    The pattern changes in the middle as well. so you'd need to show on the full size

mikeknoop 2y ago

(You can direct link to a task like this: https://arcprize.org/play?task=009d5c81 https://arcprize.org/play?task=009d5c81 in case you want to share!)

saati 2y ago

It's pretty easy, just follow the second example with the colors from the test input. (if it's the same puzzle 00576224 for you too)

kenjackson 2y ago
https://arcprize.org/play?task=00576224 https://arcprize.org/play?task=00576224 Yes the same puzzle. And I followed the second example. This was my solution: GRG OBO RGR B is the cyan like blue color. My solution looks right, but it says it’s wrong.
- halter73 2y ago
  You need to resize the output grid to 6x6.
  - kenjackson 2y ago
    How come? The pattern should work for any size grid.
    - bigyikes 2y ago
      You might be technically correct, but if you extend that logic, why not just make the grid 1x1 and select a single color? The grid size is part of the pattern in the same way that the colors are part of the pattern. It’s not just a color pattern, it’s a generalized mapping of input to output. In short: you need to resize the grid because that’s what the examples do.
      - johndough 2y ago
        > why not just make the grid 1x1 and select a single color? For two reasons: 1. The initially suggested grid size was 3x3. 2. Filling in a 3x3 grid is sufficient to show that you understood the pattern, but filling in a 1x1 (or even 2x2) grid is insufficient. Requiring the user fill in a larger grid is a waste of time. The existence of the grid size selector would still make sense in cases where a 2x2 grid would be sufficient to show the solution, so it is not obvious at all that a 6x6 grid should be chosen. > The grid size is part of the pattern in the same way that the colors are part of the pattern. To understand a pattern, you have to see at least two valid inputs and corresponding outputs. For the first example, a valid example for the expected output grid size is missing. I arrived at the "correct" conclusion eventually, but the only indicator was that the reading direction for the UI was absolutely ridiculous ( https://i.imgur.com/CuQ2z2N.png https://i.imgur.com/CuQ2z2N.png ), suggesting that the authors did not think this through properly, so the solution had to be weird as well.
        lucianbr 2y ago
        The fact that two intelligent beings are debating what the correct answer is shows that there is no fixed correct answer that proves "intelligence". This is IQ tests all over again. Actually testing how alike you think to the author of the test.
        wantsanagent 2y ago
        Twist: bigyikes is an LLM!
        sashank_1509 2y ago
  - Tepix 2y ago
    Yeah into the same problem but managed to find the solution by resizing it.
- deleted 2y ago
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- Foolandmore 2y ago
  The pattern changes in the middle as well. so you'd need to show on the full size