> points out that Russia did not target (initially, now they are) essential civilian infrastructure like power plants Oh, right, they were targeting shopping m

> points out that Russia did not target (initially, now they are) essential civilian infrastructure like power plants Oh, right, they were targeting shopping malls and residential buildings... Or, you know, nuclear power plants. > When people are confronted with this fact they typically turn to the argument that our team are pure-of-heart so their killing doesn't count. Yes, your side is the only one that has rational individuals. > I don't remember where or if he talked about the claim of genocide in Ukraine but there is not a "staggering amount of evidence" unless your definition of genocide is so broad as to include a large proportion of armed conflicts So, Mariupol, Bucha... Bucha was just a massacre, there's no justification there, but let's say you want to compare Mariupol with... Fallujah? Do you have a worse US massacre in recent history? Well, yeah, the US killed people, and they should be blamed for it, but the scale doesn't even compare. Even if you take the Russian number of casualties, it's way higher in Mariupol. >Like I said these criticisms fall apart almost immediately when you start discussing the facts. What facts?