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Fear? That's been a fact as far as I've been aware since the big blowup back in mid '23. It got better, ish, with some of the updates they've dropped but it's s
by ToucanLoucan 2y ago
Fear? That's been a fact as far as I've been aware since the big blowup back in mid '23. It got better, ish, with some of the updates they've dropped but it's still catastrophically losing money on every call.
I'm guessing that's going to be the needle that finally pops this bubble, because as neat as a lot of shit going on with various models is, nobody is going to pay what it actually costs to run the things in order to have that neatness.
- t-writescode 2y agoCitation? Because I haven't been able to find any such thing in my research.
- ToucanLoucan 2y agoSome quick googling says OpenAI is losing $700,000 per day operating it's models, which some other quick googling say are processing roughly 10 million queries per day, which if we do quick back-of-napkin math is about 7 cents per query. Currently their lowest-tier price is $20/month, and limits users to 80 queries per hour. If we assume that 7 cents number and our hypothetical user actually uses those 80 queries for whatever odd reason, that's $5.60 it costs OpenAI, which if that user used them for say, 8 hours (the typical work day), that's $44.80 for OpenAI on a user who's only paid $20. And that's one day, that $20 currently gets them a month of access to that 80 queries per hour. I hope for the dream of profitability that they would get throttled at some point. So the user could, in theory, already render their subscription a net loss for OpenAI with 4 workdays of steady usage. And yes this is strictly back-of-napkin math here but it would explain why "OpenAI" and "bankrupt" keep appearing in the tech press over and over.
- tbruckner 2y ago> catastrophically losing money on every call You're going to have to bring some actual numbers on that speculation.