> I've never seen nor heard of cases where it might take 30 minutes to escape and reach a store. Well, me neither. I grew up on a production farm with actual r

> I've never seen nor heard of cases where it might take 30 minutes to escape and reach a store. Well, me neither. I grew up on a production farm with actual rows of corn as far as the eye can seen – in what I am quite sure everyone would agree was decidedly rural – and there were still several different towns with stores within a 5-10 minute driving radius. > I think some people in this thread are getting a bit hyperbolic about how inconvenient they are. No doubt, but that doesn't really have much to do with the conversation. The conversation is about what we call the places that are just rows upon rows of housing without a shared and vibrant mixture of businesses, hospitals, schools, etc. They're not exactly rural, there are too many people living there to be considered rural, but they aren't like towns or cities either. They are more like rural than anything else. Suburb seems to be the prevailing term.