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How can there not be an app? Don't you need a place to manage your cards?

Symbiote 2y ago
I only added one card to my phone (for a backup) and it works without Google Wallet.
ajross 2y ago
The app is, and has always been, "Wallet". The cancelled app was a peer payment thing to compete with Venmo, it wasn't about payment handling. Nor was it about NFC payment device handling, which hasn't changed either.
- taeric 2y ago
  I distinctly remember adding it to the Google Pay app at some point in the past. Checking my phone now, I see that i don't have Google Wallet, and instead there is an unbranded Wallet that may be on my phone? Just, what the actual F? Are those the same thing? If Wallet is a generic thing on my phone, do I want Google Wallet, which Google Pay is telling me I should be using to manage my credit cards, now?
  - ajross 2y ago
    As mentioned, there are multiple ways to access payment processing. Most people don't go to an app on their phone, they do it at the point of sale, likely by following a link from Drive or YouTube or TV or whatever to the web UI (pay.google.com in fact redirects to wallet.google.com). But the core secrets management and NFC handling app on your phone is and has been "Wallet", and the fact that you claim to be confused about that now is just evidence that you've never needed to use this UI because it Just Works. The nonsense in this thread is about this "GPay" app, which is not and never was a payments management app. It was a peer payment service, itself based on Wallet. And no one was ever confused about it until they needed an excuse to yell on HN. They just didn't use it much, I guess, so it's been cancelled.
    - tadfisher 2y ago
      The confusion is because "Android Wallet" was renamed to "Google Pay" quite a few years back, and only last year was renamed back to "Google Wallet". GPay was a separate app, yes, but it also linked directly into "Google Pay" for card management.
  - k8svet 2y ago
    Yes. There's like a partial frankenbuild of Wallet built into the Google app, and you can get to it, somehow.
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  It certainly has not "always been" Wallet. First there was Android Pay, then Google Pay, then Wallet. This doesn't include their weird little market-specific side quests which included Google Wallet (a different app to the aforementioned Google Wallet), Google Pay Send, Tez and Google Pay (different to the aforementioned Google Pay, the one this article is about).
jeffbee 2y ago
There is an app that you can use to manage your cards but you can also manage them on the web, where by nature Google is of two minds so you can use wallet.google.com or payments.google.com. The difference between these seems to be a UI with rounded corners vs. one with sharp corners on dialog boxes. On one of these sites you can check your Google Pay balance and on the other you can check you Google Play balance. Not confusing.

I only added one card to my phone (for a backup) and it works without Google Wallet.

The app is, and has always been, "Wallet". The cancelled app was a peer payment thing to compete with Venmo, it wasn't about payment handling. Nor was it about NFC payment device handling, which hasn't changed either.

taeric 2y ago
I distinctly remember adding it to the Google Pay app at some point in the past. Checking my phone now, I see that i don't have Google Wallet, and instead there is an unbranded Wallet that may be on my phone? Just, what the actual F? Are those the same thing? If Wallet is a generic thing on my phone, do I want Google Wallet, which Google Pay is telling me I should be using to manage my credit cards, now?
- ajross 2y ago
  As mentioned, there are multiple ways to access payment processing. Most people don't go to an app on their phone, they do it at the point of sale, likely by following a link from Drive or YouTube or TV or whatever to the web UI (pay.google.com in fact redirects to wallet.google.com). But the core secrets management and NFC handling app on your phone is and has been "Wallet", and the fact that you claim to be confused about that now is just evidence that you've never needed to use this UI because it Just Works. The nonsense in this thread is about this "GPay" app, which is not and never was a payments management app. It was a peer payment service, itself based on Wallet. And no one was ever confused about it until they needed an excuse to yell on HN. They just didn't use it much, I guess, so it's been cancelled.
  - tadfisher 2y ago
    The confusion is because "Android Wallet" was renamed to "Google Pay" quite a few years back, and only last year was renamed back to "Google Wallet". GPay was a separate app, yes, but it also linked directly into "Google Pay" for card management.
- k8svet 2y ago
  Yes. There's like a partial frankenbuild of Wallet built into the Google app, and you can get to it, somehow.
mvdtnz 2y ago
It certainly has not "always been" Wallet. First there was Android Pay, then Google Pay, then Wallet. This doesn't include their weird little market-specific side quests which included Google Wallet (a different app to the aforementioned Google Wallet), Google Pay Send, Tez and Google Pay (different to the aforementioned Google Pay, the one this article is about).

jeffbee 2y ago

There is an app that you can use to manage your cards but you can also manage them on the web, where by nature Google is of two minds so you can use wallet.google.com or payments.google.com. The difference between these seems to be a UI with rounded corners vs. one with sharp corners on dialog boxes. On one of these sites you can check your Google Pay balance and on the other you can check you Google Play balance. Not confusing.