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Wrong Map of Europe

42 points by uncleshelby 2y ago

isoprophlex 2y ago
As a born Rotterdammer, I find the placement of Amsterdam extremely upsetting. Well done ;)
sakex 2y ago
> Zürich isn’t the capital of Switzerland, Geneva is… No.. It's Bern
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Oh, thank you for pointing that out! It's fixed now.
- Longhanks 2y ago
  No, Switzerland does not have a capital de jure. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#cite_note-fedcit-1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#cite_note-fedcit...
xg15 2y ago
> Putingrad doesn’t exist Not yet...
mrweasel 2y ago
The entire top part of Denmark is missing. Everything above Limfjorden is missing, leaving a weird grab between Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
- ochrist 2y ago
  Came here to write this :-) Also known as the Nørrejyske Ø (North Jutlandic Island) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Jutlandic_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Jutlandic_Island
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Thanks for pointing that out. I've updated the post.
piotrke 2y ago
Oliwa is a district of Gdansk and not the city itself. Up to 1926 it was indeed independent but way smaller.
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Interesting! I love how much I'm learning from this. Thanks for pointing that out, I updated the post to reflect that.
  - sixtyj 2y ago
    This. The map could be used in geography class as test.
CoBE10 2y ago
All's well in Balkans. Moving along...
gpderetta 2y ago
Turin is now... Turambar!
- KineticLensman 2y ago
  As a Tolkien fan, I really like this change [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Túrin_Turambar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Túrin_Turambar
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markhahn 2y ago
Can I guess it's AI-generated? It has the same forced-to-BS-beyond-real-knowledge feel. It gets most of the outlines right-ish, but just hallucinates a bunch of other stuff.
- aebtebeten 2y ago
  In the spirit of https://xkcd.com/2945/ https://xkcd.com/2945/ , and having heard the adage that "Wars are God's way of teaching Geography to americans", I had just assumed it was some mortal's attempt at a method involving less "collateral damage".
- mopsi 2y ago
  Very unlikely. Many mistakes are small jokes. Norway, for example, has cities named Nynorsk and Bokmål, which are actually the names of two different standards of Norwegian language. Ukraine has a city named Salo, an obvious reference to salo the food. Denmark's capital is called Legoland on the map and located roughly where Billund is (the town with Legoland).
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    > Norway, for example, has cities named Nynorsk and Bokmål, which are actually the names of two different standards of Norwegian language. Not only that but the official written languagein the cities named Bokmål and Nynorsk are exactly that, respectively.
zvr 2y ago
It would have been shorter to list only the correct markings on the map.
sixtyj 2y ago
The original map was produced by CIA in 2004, you can see it in Library of Congress. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g5700.ct001785/?r=-0.179,-0.051,1.073,1.514,0 https://www.loc.gov/resource/g5700.ct001785/?r=-0.179,-0.051...
- vessenes 2y ago
  Interesting - I wonder if it was used as a knowledge test. Everywhere you dig in on the map has inside jokes, plus small and large problems.
  - yorwba 2y ago
    The original map doesn't have the jokes, only the modified version in TFA does.
    - vessenes 2y ago
      Well then, never mind! :)
readthenotes1 2y ago
"Tromsø is a region of Norway, not a city" It's a city. Wikipedia agrees with me: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troms%C3%B8 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troms%C3%B8
smitty1e 2y ago
> P.S. I have no idea what the original source of this map is. If you happen to know, please tell me! There is scatological adage: "Whoever smelt it, dealt it."
awelxtr 2y ago
Balearic sea is spelled as Baelish sea. (B2)
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Good catch. Thanks!
zserge 2y ago
So, it's only Liechtenstein and Monaco being the correctly mapped European countries?
peroo 2y ago
> “Vikingfjord” and “Smalahove” aren’t cities However, "Smalahove" is placed more or less exactly on the Norwegian town of Voss, which - among other things - is known (in Norway at least) for the dish "Smalahove", seared and boiled sheeps head. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vossevangen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vossevangen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Oh, cool catch! I had Smalahove as a link, so I must have noticed it was a food at some point, but I forgot to actually put the URL in. I didn't realize the connection to Voss, though.
franciscop 2y ago
Spain is totally wrong: - What is marked as "Andorra" should be "Catalonia", but should not be marked since it's not a country. Andorra is a city and a city-state, which should only be where it's marked as Andorra la Vella. - What is marked as Catalonia is not even a real area, it's kindof Basque Country but shaped differently. - All the cities are wrong, basically. I guess it wanted to piss both independentists and non-independentists, since it's setting the two areas as different countries, BUT setting them wrong.
lastofthemojito 2y ago
> The arctic circle doesn’t pass through Iceland (though this may be a consequence of the rotation) Not the mainland of Iceland, but it does pass through the Icelandic island of Grímsey, at least for the next couple decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grímsey#Arctic_Circle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grímsey#Arctic_Circle
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Good call. I've update the post to reflect that.
- chgs 2y ago
  Related Tom Scott https://youtu.be/hr03xF08qoU?si=XfI-yJSQ6A28QWTm https://youtu.be/hr03xF08qoU?si=XfI-yJSQ6A28QWTm
skrebbel 2y ago
Found another one: The Hebrides are in the wrong place, should be off the coast of Scotland, not Ireland EDIT: also, the North Sea and Barentz Sea named are swapped, I think. I’m not 100% that’s where the Barentz Sea precisely is and cant be bothered to check EDIT 2: Porto is actually a bit further south
- uncleshelby 2y ago
  Good catch. I've updated the post. EDIT re: your edit: Wow. You're noticing things faster than I can update the post!
  - skrebbel 2y ago
    Actually I just noticed that the original map posted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40652631 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40652631 also has Porto a bit too far north :-D
jp57 2y ago
"Bringmeham" for Birmingham is proof that this is a joke and not some heinous error, right?
- chgs 2y ago
  Pretty much everywhere you look is wrong, it’s deliberately wrong
chgs 2y ago
“ Mousehole are the only correctly placed and named cities in the UK” Had to smile at the ideal of household being a city!
pingou 2y ago
Probably a variant of the trap streets to detect map copies, but it went a bit too far.
yobbo 2y ago
Stalingrad (now Volgograd) looks to be where Kursk is. Gulf of Finland is marked as "Gulf of Sweden". But Koskenkorva is actually a town. Carthago is Carthage in English, the state which existed in present day Tunisia from which Hannibal sailed and crossed the alps on elephants. Carthage was later destroyed by the romans.
bleuarff 2y ago
More errors for France: - Beaujolais is in place of Lyon. Beaujolais is a wine region just north of it. - "Tolose" is actually spelled "Toulouse" - "Anduoillette" is actually Bordeaux. "Andouillette" (without the typo) is a pork sausage made from intestines. Typically french, but the region most associated with this food is in the opposite of the country, in the North-East. - "Marsupial" is Marseille
rurban 2y ago
It would have been a much shorter list with the actually correct labels. 90% is wrong.

Wrong Map of Europe

42 points by uncleshelby 2y ago

isoprophlex 2y ago

As a born Rotterdammer, I find the placement of Amsterdam extremely upsetting. Well done ;)

sakex 2y ago

> Zürich isn’t the capital of Switzerland, Geneva is… No.. It's Bern

uncleshelby 2y ago
Oh, thank you for pointing that out! It's fixed now.
Longhanks 2y ago
No, Switzerland does not have a capital de jure. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#cite_note-fedcit-1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#cite_note-fedcit...

xg15 2y ago

> Putingrad doesn’t exist Not yet...

mrweasel 2y ago

The entire top part of Denmark is missing. Everything above Limfjorden is missing, leaving a weird grab between Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

ochrist 2y ago
Came here to write this :-) Also known as the Nørrejyske Ø (North Jutlandic Island) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Jutlandic_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Jutlandic_Island
uncleshelby 2y ago
Thanks for pointing that out. I've updated the post.

piotrke 2y ago

Oliwa is a district of Gdansk and not the city itself. Up to 1926 it was indeed independent but way smaller.

uncleshelby 2y ago
Interesting! I love how much I'm learning from this. Thanks for pointing that out, I updated the post to reflect that.
- sixtyj 2y ago
  This. The map could be used in geography class as test.

CoBE10 2y ago

All's well in Balkans. Moving along...

gpderetta 2y ago

Turin is now... Turambar!

KineticLensman 2y ago
As a Tolkien fan, I really like this change [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Túrin_Turambar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Túrin_Turambar

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markhahn 2y ago

Can I guess it's AI-generated? It has the same forced-to-BS-beyond-real-knowledge feel. It gets most of the outlines right-ish, but just hallucinates a bunch of other stuff.

aebtebeten 2y ago
In the spirit of https://xkcd.com/2945/ https://xkcd.com/2945/ , and having heard the adage that "Wars are God's way of teaching Geography to americans", I had just assumed it was some mortal's attempt at a method involving less "collateral damage".
mopsi 2y ago
Very unlikely. Many mistakes are small jokes. Norway, for example, has cities named Nynorsk and Bokmål, which are actually the names of two different standards of Norwegian language. Ukraine has a city named Salo, an obvious reference to salo the food. Denmark's capital is called Legoland on the map and located roughly where Billund is (the town with Legoland).
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  > Norway, for example, has cities named Nynorsk and Bokmål, which are actually the names of two different standards of Norwegian language. Not only that but the official written languagein the cities named Bokmål and Nynorsk are exactly that, respectively.

zvr 2y ago

It would have been shorter to list only the correct markings on the map.

sixtyj 2y ago

The original map was produced by CIA in 2004, you can see it in Library of Congress. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g5700.ct001785/?r=-0.179,-0.051,1.073,1.514,0 https://www.loc.gov/resource/g5700.ct001785/?r=-0.179,-0.051...

vessenes 2y ago
Interesting - I wonder if it was used as a knowledge test. Everywhere you dig in on the map has inside jokes, plus small and large problems.
- yorwba 2y ago
  The original map doesn't have the jokes, only the modified version in TFA does.
  - vessenes 2y ago
    Well then, never mind! :)

readthenotes1 2y ago

"Tromsø is a region of Norway, not a city" It's a city. Wikipedia agrees with me: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troms%C3%B8 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troms%C3%B8

smitty1e 2y ago

> P.S. I have no idea what the original source of this map is. If you happen to know, please tell me! There is scatological adage: "Whoever smelt it, dealt it."

awelxtr 2y ago

Balearic sea is spelled as Baelish sea. (B2)

uncleshelby 2y ago
Good catch. Thanks!

zserge 2y ago

So, it's only Liechtenstein and Monaco being the correctly mapped European countries?

peroo 2y ago

> “Vikingfjord” and “Smalahove” aren’t cities However, "Smalahove" is placed more or less exactly on the Norwegian town of Voss, which - among other things - is known (in Norway at least) for the dish "Smalahove", seared and boiled sheeps head. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vossevangen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vossevangen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove

uncleshelby 2y ago
Oh, cool catch! I had Smalahove as a link, so I must have noticed it was a food at some point, but I forgot to actually put the URL in. I didn't realize the connection to Voss, though.

franciscop 2y ago

Spain is totally wrong: - What is marked as "Andorra" should be "Catalonia", but should not be marked since it's not a country. Andorra is a city and a city-state, which should only be where it's marked as Andorra la Vella. - What is marked as Catalonia is not even a real area, it's kindof Basque Country but shaped differently. - All the cities are wrong, basically. I guess it wanted to piss both independentists and non-independentists, since it's setting the two areas as different countries, BUT setting them wrong.

lastofthemojito 2y ago

> The arctic circle doesn’t pass through Iceland (though this may be a consequence of the rotation) Not the mainland of Iceland, but it does pass through the Icelandic island of Grímsey, at least for the next couple decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grímsey#Arctic_Circle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grímsey#Arctic_Circle

uncleshelby 2y ago
Good call. I've update the post to reflect that.
chgs 2y ago
Related Tom Scott https://youtu.be/hr03xF08qoU?si=XfI-yJSQ6A28QWTm https://youtu.be/hr03xF08qoU?si=XfI-yJSQ6A28QWTm

skrebbel 2y ago

Found another one: The Hebrides are in the wrong place, should be off the coast of Scotland, not Ireland EDIT: also, the North Sea and Barentz Sea named are swapped, I think. I’m not 100% that’s where the Barentz Sea precisely is and cant be bothered to check EDIT 2: Porto is actually a bit further south

uncleshelby 2y ago
Good catch. I've updated the post. EDIT re: your edit: Wow. You're noticing things faster than I can update the post!
- skrebbel 2y ago
  Actually I just noticed that the original map posted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40652631 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40652631 also has Porto a bit too far north :-D

jp57 2y ago

"Bringmeham" for Birmingham is proof that this is a joke and not some heinous error, right?

chgs 2y ago
Pretty much everywhere you look is wrong, it’s deliberately wrong

chgs 2y ago

“ Mousehole are the only correctly placed and named cities in the UK” Had to smile at the ideal of household being a city!

pingou 2y ago

Probably a variant of the trap streets to detect map copies, but it went a bit too far.

yobbo 2y ago

Stalingrad (now Volgograd) looks to be where Kursk is. Gulf of Finland is marked as "Gulf of Sweden". But Koskenkorva is actually a town. Carthago is Carthage in English, the state which existed in present day Tunisia from which Hannibal sailed and crossed the alps on elephants. Carthage was later destroyed by the romans.

bleuarff 2y ago

More errors for France: - Beaujolais is in place of Lyon. Beaujolais is a wine region just north of it. - "Tolose" is actually spelled "Toulouse" - "Anduoillette" is actually Bordeaux. "Andouillette" (without the typo) is a pork sausage made from intestines. Typically french, but the region most associated with this food is in the opposite of the country, in the North-East. - "Marsupial" is Marseille

rurban 2y ago

It would have been a much shorter list with the actually correct labels. 90% is wrong.