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I've definitely experienced this. It used to happen weekly. My wife would often "wake me up" and say I was snoring, but to me, I was still lying awake trying to

• xcskier56 2y ago
  I have this EXACT same experience with my GF but on the other side of things. She'll be snoring so I'll poke her and she'll say she was awake... but was definitely snoring asleep
  • wil421 2y ago
    Don’t try to prove she’s snoring by showing her evidence of the snoring. Let me make that mistake for you.
    • WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
      > Don’t try to prove she’s snoring by showing her evidence of the snoring. For my spouse I highlighted the cracked windows and the house shifted on it's foundation. I tried using circles under everyone's eyes but she insisted those were from food allergies.
      • doubled112 2y ago
        This is all circumstantial at best!
• ramesh31 2y ago
  >I've begun taking a small amount of CBD in the form of an edible a few hours before going to bed (a quarter of a 5 mg gummy), and I have minimal sleep issues now. A 1.25mg dose of CBD is essentially homeopathic levels. Either you're confused on the dosage or experiencing a placebo effect.
  • wafflemaker 2y ago
    Active doses vary wildly between people. And spectrum folks (which 30% of hners are) tend to need less of most drugs.
    • newzisforsukas 2y ago
      > (which 30% of hners are) Where is this number from?
      • philwelch 2y ago
        Behind the pelvis
      • wil421 2y ago
        >need less of most drugs. This one too.
        • wafflemaker 2y ago
          Sorry, got that from one of Thomas D. Brown's books on ADHD. Thought it's a common knowledge, but I struggle to find anything on it on the internet. Source should be in the book tho. Drop me a message at ntgiem2q0rc@opayq.com and I'll reply when\if I find it. Can't ATM.
          • philwelch 2y ago
            Thomas D. Brown did a study on HN users and published his findings in a book?
      • monadINtop 2y ago
        it was revealed in a vision
  • itishappy 2y ago
    Edit: This was a garbage-tier comment. Leaving it up with edits because I think the links are interesting. 1/4 "serving size" (if you will) isn't homeopathic, ~~and aligns pretty closely with the recommended dose of the only FDA approved CBD medication~~ (see edit below): > Increase in weekly increments of 5 mg/kg/day (2.5 mg/kg twice daily). Edit: I'm dumb and mixing mg and mg/kg. This would be 400mg/day for an average adult. Still not homeopathic. https://www.epidiolexhcp.com/dosing/dosing-and-administration https://www.epidiolexhcp.com/dosing/dosing-and-administratio... Though the ~~recommended dose~~ (again, see edit below) for various activities does vary wildly: > post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD): 1.5 mg > difficulty sleeping: 300 mg Edit: Turns out that's just the dosage that was administered during one of the studies, not necessarily the recommended treatment dosage. > Despite these early findings and data from two case reports in which CBD improved sleep quality in a single pediatric patient with PTSD and four patients with Parkinson’s disease, we identified only one randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, study with sleep as the primary outcome measure. In this trial, 27 healthy volunteers received either oral CBD (300 mg dissolved in corn oil) or placebo. CBD did not alter any sleep measures (e.g., self-rated sleep quality or polysomnography examinations) relative to placebo. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880228/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880228/ We really need better studies of this stuff...
• digging 2y ago
  This happens to both me and my partner, more often with me though. I've literally been (from my perspective) lying there awake when they say "you're snoring" and been able to immediately respond "no I'm not" - which obviously makes no sense. I don't think either of us have insomnia. Both of us do have other mostly-managed health issues that occasionally cause us to stay up with racing thoughts, but the two phenomena aren't really associated with each other. (Also, I think it happens to my partner more because they use unfiltered screens late at night. If I accidentally use a device without blue light filtering it's much more likely for me to be unable to fall asleep. So not "real" insomnia.)
• werheisng 2y ago
  have you gotten checked for sleep apnea? Your situation sounds similar to mine (except I never tried CBD). Getting treated for sleep apnea was a game changer for me
  • WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
    > Getting treated for sleep apnea was a game changer for me I'd like to but that much money doesn't live in my pocket. It's on the list of stuff I hope for >62.
    • snapcaster 2y ago
      Hey man, obviously easy for me to say but really worth trying to at least figure out some way to check for this and get treated. It will literally kill you. Good luck
      • WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
        A major hurdle is the devices are typically DRM locked to manufacturers and a Rx is required before any programming can happen.
        • averageRoyalty 2y ago
          Not sure where in the world you are, but any country with public healthcare (most of the first world) you can do a sleep study free or low copayment. A basic CPAP you can usually rent, and you can switch off call home functions on all the ones I've seen.
          • marcus0x62 2y ago
            I’m guessing he’s in the part of the first world where none of that is true.
          • WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
            > Not sure where in the world you are US > but any country with public healthcare (most of the first world) You may not be familiar with US healthcare but the US both does and doesn't have public healthcare. It generally depends on which political party dominates the state gov. > you [someone else] can do a sleep study free or low copayment. How nice! > A basic CPAP you can usually rent, Not without a Rx. > and you can switch off call home functions on all the ones I've seen. That's cool but we're talking about something different - collecting data not blocking it. Specifically, the data collected by CPAP that's used to lower AHI. CPAP makers like ResMed lock their data behind proprietary formats. The software that can read proprietary CPAP data is federally limited to Drs.
• newzisforsukas 2y ago
  Is there melatonin in the CBD gummy? That sounds like a very low dose. It is common for cannabinoids to be marketed for sleep with melatonin in them.
  • BossingAround 2y ago
    Melatonin won't improve the quality of your sleep. It might induce sleep if your body doesn't naturally produce melatonin, e.g. due to going to bed at very different times throughout prolonged periods. But, outside of that, melatonin isn't very useful as a sleep quality enhancer. Similar to CBD, IIRC, one would have to take very large amounts of CBD to produce any statistically significant effect on one's sleep, and CBD gummies are not the most bioavailable CBD there is. My guess is it's placebo rather than anything else.
    • scotty79 2y ago
      Or there's a spectrum of reactions to CBD as with everything and this guy just got lucky.
    • newzisforsukas 2y ago
      > Melatonin won't improve the quality of your sleep Seems to be RCTs that dispute that? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33417003/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33417003/
    • fy20 2y ago
      > Melatonin won't improve the quality of your sleep This has been my experience with melatonin too. I usually wake up after 3-4 hours and find it hard to get back to sleep after. I have no issues getting to sleep the first time. Taking melatonin in the evening before I sleep (even a high dose of a few mg) doesn't affect whether I wake up, but if I take it immediately after I wake up, it helps me to fall asleep again for the rest of the night. My sleep issues seem to be caused by stress, so maybe CBD would be good for me.
• NoboruWataya 2y ago
  The snoring thing has definitely happened to me, though I wouldn't say I have insomnia (I can find it difficult to get to sleep but that's probably just too much coffee and screen time). It's so weird because I can't hear the snoring at all.
• samatman 2y ago
  In terms of cheap things to try, I'd like to recommend trying a nasal stent. I don't snore because I side sleep, but do if I'm on my back, and I suspected some minor apnea was taking place regardless of position. The stent has noticeably improved my sleep quality. If it doesn't help, you're out twenty bucks, if it does it could literally add years to your life.
  • throwanem 2y ago
    Can you recommend an example product? Everything I find in a search for "nasal stent" appears to require surgical placement.
    • thephyber 2y ago
      I bought something similar that was marketed like this: > “Rhinomed Mute” Snore Stopper Nasal Dilator for Snore Reduction
      • samatman 2y ago
        This happens to be the exact one I tried. I'll probably try others in case there's one which happens to work better or be more comfortable (irritation of the nostrils at first was a real factor, took about a week to adjust), but with a hydrogen peroxide bath every few days they can last an arbitrarily long amount of time, so I haven't felt the need.
  • QuercusMax 2y ago
    I've had good results with a nasal strip (like BreatheRight) plus an anti-snoring appliance (like zQuiet). I had a dentist-provided appliance that cost me $1000 out of pocket and broke in less than a year (when I had moved out of state); the zQuiet + nasal strip helps just as much and is an order of magnitude cheaper.
  • lazyeye 2y ago
    Also worth getting a good quality air purifier for your bedroom. This definitely improved my breathing and sleep.
• op00to 2y ago
  This literally happened to me the other night. I was sitting in my lay-z-boy and my wife was resting in the bed nearby. I realized about an hour later that I had been asleep. I was 100% sure I was awake and watching the show, and vividly remember watching the show, but nope, I was asleep. Weeeeeird.
  • pillefitz 2y ago
    Do you remember any of the show's content?
    • op00to 2y ago
      Only about 20%. We rewatched it the following night. I could have sworn I was awake, but obviously not!
• gwbas1c 2y ago
  > My wife would often "wake me up" and say I was snoring, but to me, I was still lying awake trying to fall asleep. Have you ever been evaluated for sleep apnea? That's how it used to feel to me: I would feel like it took me 45-minutes to an hour to fall asleep. Once I started using a CPAP, I fell asleep almost instantly.
• j0hnyl 2y ago
  I'm very skeptical that 1.25mg of CBD alone could have any impact on sleep outside of placebo.
  • RamRodification 2y ago
    Don't ruin their placebo by telling them!
    • reverius42 2y ago
      One of the cool things about placebo effect is that it can work even if you know it's a placebo!
      • jimbobthrowawy 2y ago
        I think some work measurably better when you know it's a placebo and not something that may or may not work. I've long considered manufacturing and selling something that does that, but I think the homeopathists have the market sewn up.
  • flippyhead 2y ago
    I'm not; this also works for me better than anything else I've tried.
  • Workaccount2 2y ago
    At least for me and for some others I have met, we have an immense sensitivity to cannabinoids. I will actually get a decent buzz from CBD gummies that most people feel absolutely nothing from, even if they eat the whole bag. I cannot smoke any THC flower because it's all way to strong, and the only way I can consume THC is cutting up gummies into small pieces.
    • Perenti 2y ago
      OMG!!! For YEARS I've wondered why I get a buzz from CBD, when it's "not psychoactive". It's incredibly affirming to know I'm not the only one. As for flower, I feel "full" while others have more, although I'll feel like more before they do (as they've had like half as much again as me). The big thing is different ppl seem to have different sensitivities to different cannabinoids. This probably means something about the relative densities of CB1 vs CB2 receptors
• Llamamoe 2y ago
  You have sleep disordered breathing. Get a good, UARS-aware sleep study - not everyone's airway collapses to the point of having sleep apnea, plenty of people experience horrifying sleep fragmentation instead. If your sleep is messed up AND you snore, you 100% certainly have it.