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What is the vision over there at Microsoft?

by imbnwa 2y ago

nevir 2y ago
outsource all the things?
hypeatei 2y ago
Money.
- imbnwa 2y ago
  I mean, they bought the biggest video game publishers for like $70b or something absurd in lieu of obvious antitrust, which they lost, only to be come a bloated 3rd party publisher, and are now dropping rants about how evil Sony is for having exclusives. They're packing minesweeper with P2W and ads? Who is in charge over there?
  - sickofparadox 2y ago
    Don't forget closing a bunch of studios that they spent a ton of money on right after buying them, some of which made games that earned multiple GOTY awards the same year they closed.
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    - imbnwa 2y ago
      How is there no cost for the heads of gaming over there who’s ridiculous strategy utterly failed and cost other people’s livelihoods? Definition of a ossified management layer.
ElectronBadger 2y ago
I think it's "we'll milk all the suckers".
- stephenr 2y ago
  So still the same vision they've had since the early 90s at least
  - delichon 2y ago
    If the cows are still queuing up to be milked why change?
    - stephenr 2y ago
      No it makes sense from a profit making perspective, absolutely. Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37035733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37035733
  - prerok 2y ago
    In my view, that's unfair to the early versions of Windows, at least up to Win7. Sure, they were charging a hefty sum for the OS but it was the best choice for a home and even office user. They used some dirty tactics on the business side of things but the end user was never so blatantly abused. Nowadays, they still charge for the OS but you also get all these ads shoved in your face. Wish I could convince my non programmer friends to switch to Linux.
    - aembleton 2y ago
      > Wish I could convince my non programmer friends to switch to Linux. Why? If they're happy with Windows then how does that affect you?
      - prerok 2y ago
        Well, because they keep asking me how to log in after they forgot their password for their Live account. Or, how to keep using windows live mail, since it's been replaced by this Mail client, which is horrendous. Or, how they decided to drop support for older drivers and now, after getting Win11, they can't use their scanner. And while trying to tackle that I am bombed with these ads, that propagate products which are expensive, or subpar or both. I need to get the T-shirt that says "No, I will not fix your computer" :)
dagw 2y ago
There is none. Someone somewhere was given a KPI to increase their departments ad revenue by X%, so that is what they are doing, rest of the company be damned.
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CobrastanJorji 2y ago
Often when you see this, it is because the manager most in charge oof the thing is being awarded for their team's success and not for the company's success. Does this make Microsoft look worse? Yes. Does this provide fuel for a lot of negative narratives about the company? Sure. Is it worth it? No. But, will it help this one specific team make more money and justify their leader's promotion? Yes, it will. The "vision over there" that causes this is "I will get promoted to a more senior leadership position, make more money, and retire in style." Nobody ever got promoted for limiting the success of their own little fiefdom in defense of the greater whole.

What is the vision over there at Microsoft?

by imbnwa 2y ago

What is the vision over there at Microsoft?

nevir 2y ago

outsource all the things?

hypeatei 2y ago

Money.

imbnwa 2y ago
I mean, they bought the biggest video game publishers for like $70b or something absurd in lieu of obvious antitrust, which they lost, only to be come a bloated 3rd party publisher, and are now dropping rants about how evil Sony is for having exclusives. They're packing minesweeper with P2W and ads? Who is in charge over there?
- sickofparadox 2y ago
  Don't forget closing a bunch of studios that they spent a ton of money on right after buying them, some of which made games that earned multiple GOTY awards the same year they closed.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - imbnwa 2y ago
    How is there no cost for the heads of gaming over there who’s ridiculous strategy utterly failed and cost other people’s livelihoods? Definition of a ossified management layer.

ElectronBadger 2y ago

I think it's "we'll milk all the suckers".

stephenr 2y ago
So still the same vision they've had since the early 90s at least
- delichon 2y ago
  If the cows are still queuing up to be milked why change?
  - stephenr 2y ago
    No it makes sense from a profit making perspective, absolutely. Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37035733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37035733
- prerok 2y ago
  In my view, that's unfair to the early versions of Windows, at least up to Win7. Sure, they were charging a hefty sum for the OS but it was the best choice for a home and even office user. They used some dirty tactics on the business side of things but the end user was never so blatantly abused. Nowadays, they still charge for the OS but you also get all these ads shoved in your face. Wish I could convince my non programmer friends to switch to Linux.
  - aembleton 2y ago
    > Wish I could convince my non programmer friends to switch to Linux. Why? If they're happy with Windows then how does that affect you?
    - prerok 2y ago
      Well, because they keep asking me how to log in after they forgot their password for their Live account. Or, how to keep using windows live mail, since it's been replaced by this Mail client, which is horrendous. Or, how they decided to drop support for older drivers and now, after getting Win11, they can't use their scanner. And while trying to tackle that I am bombed with these ads, that propagate products which are expensive, or subpar or both. I need to get the T-shirt that says "No, I will not fix your computer" :)

dagw 2y ago

There is none. Someone somewhere was given a KPI to increase their departments ad revenue by X%, so that is what they are doing, rest of the company be damned.

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CobrastanJorji 2y ago

Often when you see this, it is because the manager most in charge oof the thing is being awarded for their team's success and not for the company's success. Does this make Microsoft look worse? Yes. Does this provide fuel for a lot of negative narratives about the company? Sure. Is it worth it? No. But, will it help this one specific team make more money and justify their leader's promotion? Yes, it will. The "vision over there" that causes this is "I will get promoted to a more senior leadership position, make more money, and retire in style." Nobody ever got promoted for limiting the success of their own little fiefdom in defense of the greater whole.