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> where very few people want to live just as a sole data point: been there a few times, and my personal ideal weather _is_ cool/gray/wet with ideal outside tem
by anonyfox 2y ago
> where very few people want to live
just as a sole data point: been there a few times, and my personal ideal weather _is_ cool/gray/wet with ideal outside temperature of 15C. I can withstand the cold, but find it hard to tolerate heat (as in >20C).
Purely from a weather perspective, I'd move there. What holds me back is that I also need dense urban surroundings nearby with all the buzz it brings (cyberpunk style) - norway is lacking that, including Oslo. _Too_ quiet/beautiful/peaceful for my liking.
- NegatioN 2y agoWhat gets most foreigners is usually the darkness in the winter, and not the temperature fwiw. It's hard to describe, but many people end up quite depressed.
- konschubert 2y agoLiving in northernmost Germany, I can confirm. It’s not the cold or the endless weeks of rain. It’s the days that barely feel like daylight.
- mattpallissard 2y agoLiving in Alaska I struggle more with the endless daylight than the short dark days. It messes with my sleep too much.
- dylan604 2y agoThere's ways to black out windows and darken rooms to counter all of that daylight, but when it's dark it's really hard to counter that when going outside. Without actually personally experiencing it, I think I would have the opposite struggle. If it were dark for that long without clouds so I could have all of that extra time to view the sky I think it would be a much different situation though.
- grugagag 2y agoHave locals adapted to this or they’re generally more depressive over the winter months?
- foobarian 2y agoIt's actually surprising how north the famous EU countries are. Already south France and Italy are about the same latitude as New England; Norway must be like Alaska as far as daylight goes. If it weren't for the warm Atlantic current the place would be a glacier.
- input_sh 2y agoThe example that blew my mind once and I've been repeating it since: New York is as north as Madrid. Like, almost exactly, 0.3 degrees difference (or 20 miles, or 33 kilometres).
- coob 2y agoHis bless His Majesty’s Gulf Stream.
- VBprogrammer 2y agoLondon is further north than St John's Newfoundland.
- snowpid 2y agoThe south of Alaska starts in Northern Germany.
- NLips 2y agoThe entirety of Great Britain is farther north than the entirety of the contiguous 48 USA states.
- ethbr1 2y agoSo that's why they held onto Canada...
- jackcosgrove 2y agoIn the northern hemisphere the prevailing winds come from the west, which is why west coasts are more moderate than east coasts. Winds coming from the ocean are more moderate than winds coming from the interior of a continent. This is why New York is on the same latitude as Lisbon yet is much colder. Same for Tokyo and San Francisco. Western Europe is about as far north as people can live in large numbers.
- dev1ycan 2y agoI know about this from living in Lima (Peru), the weather due to our geological position is always temperate, goes from min temps of 11 degrees to like 32 in summer (top), usually around ~18/19 degrees up to like 23 throughout most of the year. You'd think climate is great, but it's ALWAYS "foggy", you can't see a clear blue sky like in the inner regions of the country such as Cusco, it depresses you, I can't imagine it being even darker. It's why I simply can't believe nordic "stories" about being the happiest place, I simply can't believe with all the money in the world you'd be happier than at a tropical beach with half of that money.
- 331c8c71 2y ago> you'd be happier than at a tropical beach with half of that money. Waaay too warm and humid. And no seasons. Thanks, but no thanks. My ideal climate is proper 4 seasons with sub-zero and snowy winters. I am pretty sure I am not the only one.
- mnsc 2y agoLiving in Northern Sweden with "midnight sun", what gets me the most the few times I've been approaching the equator is warm nights that are pitch dark. So strange! And then I remember that this is the experience of the majority of the world. :D
- Broken_Hippo 2y agoI'd just like to add: I'm an immigrant in Norway. The darkness is enough of an issue that told us know about this in the state-funded language classes and made sure we knew help was available. I'm in Trondheim, so December is full of 4.5 hours of poor sunlight each day. If there were something else that really gets folks, it is that Norway's people are rather reserved, to a point, and it really makes some folks lonely. This combined with the dark winters really causes some folks to struggle. Everyone gets used to the weather and quickly learns how to dress properly enough.
- grugagag 2y agoHow are you faring so far? Can you join some groups of less reserved/more gregarious immigrants and carry on together?
- Broken_Hippo 2y agoFor me, personally: I'm fairly introverted myself and generally had only a few friends near me before I moved, so it suits me well. Also: I've been here a decade or so and I moved for marriage - I've always had at least one friend here. I've worked a little bit. And then I got into board games (both immigrants and local folks), so I meet some folks that way. The person that organizes the games, though? They struggled a bit for a while.
- pier25 2y agoFor me it's the food. Norway is a beautiful country. I love cold weather and grey skies but all that fish stuff is not for me.
- dagw 2y agoWhat fish stuff? I grew up in Norway and lived there for a chunk of my adult life, and honestly Norwegians (at leats in/around Oslo) seem to eat less fish than most other European countries I've been to.
- boringg 2y agoI think globally norway cuisine is identified with cured or other fish etc. thats probably not what the local diet really eats probsbly (based on two comments in this thread)
- vidarh 2y agoI grew up in Norway, and I hardly eat fish, and we hardly ever had fish for dinner when I grew up.
- KingOfCoders 2y agoWhen in Norway, the only thing I didn't like was that sweet, brown cheese :-)
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- novaRom 2y ago> my personal ideal weather _is_ cool/gray/wet with ideal outside temperature of 15C 15C day temps? morning/night temps can be much lower. Winters in Norway are much colder. If you are looking for stable day-night temps year around in that range, then there is no such place in Europe, well maybe except Ireland?
- anonyfox 2y agono, more like ideal lunch time temp, lower is okay, above 20 and I start to feel miserable. Yes very cold is also okay :-) The only thing that sucks is hovering around 0C for a long time, since this means oscillating between frozen/mud
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- baq 2y agoOnly San Francisco has San Francisco weather...
- datameta 2y agoWell, temperature-wise mid-April SF struck me as almost exactly like CDMX in early December.
- mrspuratic 2y agoJune-Sept in most places in Ireland has a mean daily temp of around 15C, and around 6C winter time. It infrequently gets much above 20C, or much below 0C year round. 5 consecutive days of 25C is the meteorological definition of "heatwave". As a predominantly temperate maritime/oceanic climate it's unpredictable and erratic, from 15C mid-winter days to 4C mid-summer nights :/ Plenty of grey and wet though.