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> high risk potential conflict zones Israel is threatened by resource-constrained guerrillas, not well-funded / nuclear-powered military like Taiwan and South

> high risk potential conflict zones Israel is threatened by resource-constrained guerrillas, not well-funded / nuclear-powered military like Taiwan and South Korea are.

hedora 2y ago
The Israeli government is widely believed to have nukes.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  I'm not sure why you're being downvoted, it's generally accepted they have nukes and don't talk about it, "we will neither confirm nor deny"
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    The comment is likely being downvoted because it doesn’t seem like a response to its parent comment. The parent was saying that Israel is not facing a well-resourced military but a guerrilla group (Hamas). Its opponents don’t have things like nukes. The parent comment was not saying that Israel doesn’t have nukes. On the other hand, Taiwan is threatened by China (a nuclear power) and South Korea is threatened by North Korea (also a nuclear power).
gizmo686 2y ago
Israel is in a regional cold war with Iran. While Iran is certainly not a global super, it is a serious military force (which could plausibly become a nuclear power). Further, resource constrained guerrilla/terrorist groups love valuable targets like a $25B factory that provides a critical input for a significant portion of the global economy.
- ignoramous 2y ago
  > resource constrained ... terrorist groups If they were well-armed by the West, they'd be called a military. > love valuable targets like a $25B factory Until 7 Oct, Israel had proven more than capable of protecting its assets (at a cost). Since 7 Oct, it looks like they seek to do that once again (at a cost). I don't think megacorps are worried that much given none of the G7 really seems to care about those costs.
TechDebtDevin 2y ago
You should look into the recent wars in the middle east and earlier conflicts in South East Asia. You're highly underestimating the effectiveness of resource constrained insurgency. There's actually an argument to be made that we wouldn't even be having this conversation unless the Viet Cong existed. The Internet and modern distributed networks are a direct consequence of western intervention in SEA and the creation of counter-insurgency. You and others are making the same mistakes as the USSR and others have when countering Islamic Insurgency.The USSR's underestimation of Afghan fighters was their downfall, it's why they called Afghanistan the graveyard of empire, and I would not be surprised at all If we see Isreal meet a similar fate because of this exact same ignorance. In fact I'd bet my entire net worth that is the outcome based on what I see currently. The insane confidence, as displayed by your comment is a great summary of this type of ignorance.
- nayaketo 2y ago
  Insurgencies have been squashed in recent past (without resorting to nuclear weapons). Search for the end of Tamil tigers in Sri Lanka, Russia crushing Islamists in Chechnya, China crushing Islamists in Xinxiang (or however it's spelled), China crushing the Tibetan insurgency, and currently, Israel almost crushing Hamas.
  - HDThoreaun 2y ago
    You cant beat an insurgency without local support. The Tamil Tigers are the most obvious case, but all the other ones you mentioned involved settling the disputed territory. Israel is nowhere close to squashing Hamas
    - nayaketo 2y ago
      Cope however you like.

> high risk potential conflict zones Israel is threatened by resource-constrained guerrillas, not well-funded / nuclear-powered military like Taiwan and South Korea are.

hedora 2y ago

The Israeli government is widely believed to have nukes.

EasyMark 2y ago
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted, it's generally accepted they have nukes and don't talk about it, "we will neither confirm nor deny"
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  The comment is likely being downvoted because it doesn’t seem like a response to its parent comment. The parent was saying that Israel is not facing a well-resourced military but a guerrilla group (Hamas). Its opponents don’t have things like nukes. The parent comment was not saying that Israel doesn’t have nukes. On the other hand, Taiwan is threatened by China (a nuclear power) and South Korea is threatened by North Korea (also a nuclear power).

gizmo686 2y ago

Israel is in a regional cold war with Iran. While Iran is certainly not a global super, it is a serious military force (which could plausibly become a nuclear power). Further, resource constrained guerrilla/terrorist groups love valuable targets like a $25B factory that provides a critical input for a significant portion of the global economy.

ignoramous 2y ago
> resource constrained ... terrorist groups If they were well-armed by the West, they'd be called a military. > love valuable targets like a $25B factory Until 7 Oct, Israel had proven more than capable of protecting its assets (at a cost). Since 7 Oct, it looks like they seek to do that once again (at a cost). I don't think megacorps are worried that much given none of the G7 really seems to care about those costs.

TechDebtDevin 2y ago

You should look into the recent wars in the middle east and earlier conflicts in South East Asia. You're highly underestimating the effectiveness of resource constrained insurgency. There's actually an argument to be made that we wouldn't even be having this conversation unless the Viet Cong existed. The Internet and modern distributed networks are a direct consequence of western intervention in SEA and the creation of counter-insurgency. You and others are making the same mistakes as the USSR and others have when countering Islamic Insurgency.The USSR's underestimation of Afghan fighters was their downfall, it's why they called Afghanistan the graveyard of empire, and I would not be surprised at all If we see Isreal meet a similar fate because of this exact same ignorance. In fact I'd bet my entire net worth that is the outcome based on what I see currently. The insane confidence, as displayed by your comment is a great summary of this type of ignorance.

nayaketo 2y ago
Insurgencies have been squashed in recent past (without resorting to nuclear weapons). Search for the end of Tamil tigers in Sri Lanka, Russia crushing Islamists in Chechnya, China crushing Islamists in Xinxiang (or however it's spelled), China crushing the Tibetan insurgency, and currently, Israel almost crushing Hamas.
- HDThoreaun 2y ago
  You cant beat an insurgency without local support. The Tamil Tigers are the most obvious case, but all the other ones you mentioned involved settling the disputed territory. Israel is nowhere close to squashing Hamas
  - nayaketo 2y ago
    Cope however you like.