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There is a group of people who see Chomsky and his "school" as Alchemy and not "science". Minisky is one of his critics. The comment isnt saying anything othe

There is a group of people who see Chomsky and his "school" as Alchemy and not "science". Minisky is one of his critics. The comment isnt saying anything other than "there is an alternative point of view".

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defrost 2y ago
The comment in question was edited. The original comment was simply ב"ה or בס״ד https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besiyata_Dishmaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besiyata_Dishmaya
- graphe 2y ago
  Is it like inshallah? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/إن_شاء_الله https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/إن_شاء_الله > if it is God’s will (literally, “if God has willed [it]” >In sarcastic contexts, it suggests that the speaker has no interest in making the future event occur (thus, it will only occur if God steps in and wills it). Unlike the Arabic usage, this seems to be more attested in English than the literal meaning. I've heard it used in terms of avoiding the evil eye.
  - nsguy 2y ago
    In religious circles it's not uncommon to prefix each and every writing with that. It's very generic sort of implying god is everywhere. So in writing, in that context, it has no real special significance other than to hint the writer is religious. In some contexts Inshallah and "Bae Ezarat Hashem" could I guess have similar meanings. E.g. in the Wikipedia example: "I will visit my relatives in Riyadh this summer, God willing." it can be used exactly the same way.
    - aebtebeten 2y ago
      In the context of https://xkcd.com/2904/ https://xkcd.com/2904/ : Some languages have a distinct grammatical mood[0] for expressing wishes, curses, etc.: things that the speaker would like to pass but may or may not. (here are the dynamics, I think I've set the right initial conditions, but let's integrate them forward...) Other languages have a distinct grammatical mood[1] for expressing things that, as day follows night, are certain to happen: (here's the Lagrangian, and there's the attractor) In these senses, בס״ד could be viewed as a syntactic marker for the optative, somewhat like, but much shorter than, "forward-looking statements are provided to allow potential investors the opportunity to understand management’s beliefs and opinions in respect of the future so that they may use such beliefs and opinions as one factor in evaluating an investment." [I am bitterly disappointed that זב"שך is outmoded] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optative_mood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optative_mood [1] in HWC (alas, it has no wikipedia!), "bumbai" can be used for prophecy: "You stay X, bumbai Y" is IIUC: "if you continue to do X, Y shall come to pass." Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Pidgin#/media/File:Hawaii_Pidgin_crop.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Pidgin#/media/File:Ha...
- zdw 2y ago
  Totally unrelated to the original topic, but looking at the linked article, is the name of the store "B&H Photo" a reference not only to the initials of the founders names but also tangentially to this concept?
  - woodruffw 2y ago
    That's funny, I'd never made that connection before. The B&H owners are Szatmars (who tend to be pretty stringent in their practices), so I don't think they'd make this exact reference -- ה substitutes for HaShem which (very) roughly equates to taking god's name in vain. (They'd maybe write the בס״ד variant, so "B&D".)
    - skissane 2y ago
      > The B&H owners are Szatmars This is getting very tangential, but I've never seen someone spell it in English Szatmar before as opposed to Satmar. (From what I understand, Szatmar is the Hungarian-derived spelling, whereas Satmar is the Yiddish-derived one.)
      - woodruffw 2y ago
        My family is from pretty close to there (on the modern Ukrainian side not Romanian, but Hungarian and Eastern Yiddish speaking), so I’ve always seen it spelled “Szatmar.” But yeah, looks like “Satmar” is much more common in English and there’s no ז in the Yiddish spellings either.

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defrost 2y ago

The comment in question was edited. The original comment was simply ב"ה or בס״ד https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besiyata_Dishmaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besiyata_Dishmaya

graphe 2y ago
Is it like inshallah? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/إن_شاء_الله https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/إن_شاء_الله > if it is God’s will (literally, “if God has willed [it]” >In sarcastic contexts, it suggests that the speaker has no interest in making the future event occur (thus, it will only occur if God steps in and wills it). Unlike the Arabic usage, this seems to be more attested in English than the literal meaning. I've heard it used in terms of avoiding the evil eye.
- nsguy 2y ago
  In religious circles it's not uncommon to prefix each and every writing with that. It's very generic sort of implying god is everywhere. So in writing, in that context, it has no real special significance other than to hint the writer is religious. In some contexts Inshallah and "Bae Ezarat Hashem" could I guess have similar meanings. E.g. in the Wikipedia example: "I will visit my relatives in Riyadh this summer, God willing." it can be used exactly the same way.
  - aebtebeten 2y ago
    In the context of https://xkcd.com/2904/ https://xkcd.com/2904/ : Some languages have a distinct grammatical mood[0] for expressing wishes, curses, etc.: things that the speaker would like to pass but may or may not. (here are the dynamics, I think I've set the right initial conditions, but let's integrate them forward...) Other languages have a distinct grammatical mood[1] for expressing things that, as day follows night, are certain to happen: (here's the Lagrangian, and there's the attractor) In these senses, בס״ד could be viewed as a syntactic marker for the optative, somewhat like, but much shorter than, "forward-looking statements are provided to allow potential investors the opportunity to understand management’s beliefs and opinions in respect of the future so that they may use such beliefs and opinions as one factor in evaluating an investment." [I am bitterly disappointed that זב"שך is outmoded] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optative_mood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optative_mood [1] in HWC (alas, it has no wikipedia!), "bumbai" can be used for prophecy: "You stay X, bumbai Y" is IIUC: "if you continue to do X, Y shall come to pass." Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Pidgin#/media/File:Hawaii_Pidgin_crop.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Pidgin#/media/File:Ha...
zdw 2y ago
Totally unrelated to the original topic, but looking at the linked article, is the name of the store "B&H Photo" a reference not only to the initials of the founders names but also tangentially to this concept?
- woodruffw 2y ago
  That's funny, I'd never made that connection before. The B&H owners are Szatmars (who tend to be pretty stringent in their practices), so I don't think they'd make this exact reference -- ה substitutes for HaShem which (very) roughly equates to taking god's name in vain. (They'd maybe write the בס״ד variant, so "B&D".)
  - skissane 2y ago
    > The B&H owners are Szatmars This is getting very tangential, but I've never seen someone spell it in English Szatmar before as opposed to Satmar. (From what I understand, Szatmar is the Hungarian-derived spelling, whereas Satmar is the Yiddish-derived one.)
    - woodruffw 2y ago
      My family is from pretty close to there (on the modern Ukrainian side not Romanian, but Hungarian and Eastern Yiddish speaking), so I’ve always seen it spelled “Szatmar.” But yeah, looks like “Satmar” is much more common in English and there’s no ז in the Yiddish spellings either.