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Those who dislike censorship and enjoy hacking avoid iPhones for obvious reasons.
by tonynator 2y ago
Those who dislike censorship and enjoy hacking avoid iPhones for obvious reasons.
- duxup 2y agoI feel that way, have an iPhone.
- ihumanable 2y agoYea, same. I have literally no desire to hack and fuck around with my personal cell phone, doing so would take away time from the hacking I actually want to do.
- tonynator 2y agoOne option you can't hack on, the other you can but don't have to at all. Why choose the former? Are you so sure you'll never want to do anything on your phone that's unapproved by your corporate overlords?
- overstay8930 2y agoPeople who understand cybersecurity hygiene use iPhones for obvious reasons
- realusername 2y agoThose cybersecurity experts are using GrapheneOS and certainly not an iPhone where they can't even check if all is going well...
- jitl 2y agoI’ve worked with a few people from NCC Group, Matasano, security staff at Airbnb and OpenAI, all carry and recommend iPhones for security footing. Depending on threat model, “lockdown mode” on iOS has a lot of what is useful in Grapheme like turning off built in connectivity services & disabling JIT and other code paths in the webview.
- realusername 2y agoTo each their own, I certainly would not recommend an iPhone in this scenario, especially even more at a top tech company.
- Hugsun 2y agoThe reasons are very not obvious to me. Could you elaborate?
- astrange 2y agoiPhone security is very good, better than, say, your desktop even though you don't carry your desktop everywhere you go. (Some Android security is also very good, depends on the hardware though.)
- overstay8930 2y agoThere is no other ecosystem that will provide easy E2EE in the cloud, that’s reason enough for the vast majority of users who are just sick of breaches because of pure sysadmin incompetence. There are plenty of examples in every Apple service or even their accessories (i.e. wireless keyboard encryption). FaceTime is hardened from even theoretical attacks that could probably only be performed by 5 eyes like transcribing E2EE calls based on bandwidth use (FaceTime has built mitigations around this attack vector).
- binkethy 2y agoIt would seem that integrating a backdoor funnel to OpenAI is a bit of a security issue to those who care about such things. Yay, we can all train corporate models for free involuntarily. I guess it's time to check out Lineage OS and Postmarket OS. It was always a matter of time.
- scarface_74 2y agoNo one is going to train an AI on random user generated data. The data is going to be horrible and it’s going to be full of PII that’s too risky to expose.
- Aerbil313 2y agoPeople who understand cybersecurity who are not operating within a US-allied country use ... I don't know what to be honest. What to do in such a situation, where Apple is a US-based company obligated by law to comply with requests from three letter agencies and Android is a buggy mess which probably is backdoored by every major power?
- astrange 2y agoYour threat model shouldn't be about three letter agencies unless you're running a terrorist group. It should be about porn spammers or something.
- Aerbil313 2y agoDo you mean that US is the measure of justice and goodness in the world and anyone who opposes her is a terrorist? I don't mean to detract the conversation but this is really victim blaming. There are valid situations where the US DoD is a threat. Your username reminded me of Julian Assange, for a second I mixed them up.
- Der_Einzige 2y agoI can assure you that if you’re doing AI research, glowies likely spy on you, but it’s the “good” kind of spying where you might get a job offer some day instead of the kind where they Guantanamo bay you…
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- gfourfour 2y agoHow does an iPhone contribute to censorship?
- tonynator 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Apple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Apple