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Anyone who disagrees with you about this should buy a Mac and try not enabling iCloud. There's constant nags and as far as I could find, no way to turn them off

Anyone who disagrees with you about this should buy a Mac and try not enabling iCloud. There's constant nags and as far as I could find, no way to turn them off.

musicale 2y ago
1) Have you tried installing Linux? ;-) 2) I have booted macOS VMs without iCloud. I'm not sure of the nags though. I believe signing out of iCloud will prevent iCloud from contacting Apple. https://support.apple.com/en-us/104958 https://support.apple.com/en-us/104958
- m463 2y ago
  1) yes:) 2) that is entirely NOT true. You should install little snitch and see what happens even if you NEVER sign into icloud. note that the phone home contact is not immediate, it happens in the background at random intervals from random applications. just some random services blocked by little snitch on a mac: accountsd, adprivacyd, airportd, AMPLibraryAgent, appstoreagent, apsd, AssetCacheLocatorService.xpc, cloudd, com.apple.geod.xpc, com.apple.Safari.SafeBrowsing.Service, commerce, configd, familycircled, mapspushd, nsurlsessiond, ocspd, rapportd, remindd, Safari, sntp, softwareupdated, Spotlight, sutdentd, syspolicyd, touristd, transparencyd, trustd, X11.bin (never signed into an apple id)
  - nativeit 2y ago
    Tell me more about how dastardly it is that Safari communicates with Apple servers. Type it from your browser that doesn’t communicate directly with its developers.
    - nativeit 2y ago
      Judging from a lot of these comments, most of the folks here are reading/commenting via telnet.
dyauspitr 2y ago
I’ve never used iCloud since it came out. I can’t think of a single nag. Where do you see it on your iPhone or Mac?
- Takennickname 2y ago
  I have an iPad (not iPhone or Mac). If you don't set up Icloud, there's always an annoying bright red circle in settings that tells you to "finish setting up your iPad". Doesn't have to be bright red, or even there at all.
  - kstrauser 2y ago
    Last time I had that on a laptop I was going to wipe soon afterward and didn’t want to fully set up, I clicked the “finish setting up” link and canceled out. Voila, red circle gone.
    - jfoster 2y ago
      Gone until a few days or a week later, when it comes back.
  - dyauspitr 2y ago
    Yes, that’s the only one I’ve seen. But it’s not much of a nag.
- jfoster 2y ago
  There's several of them. The most annoying for me was getting intermittent notifications to sign in to iCloud. There's also this one: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250727947 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250727947 I eventually just gave in to stop the nags.

Anyone who disagrees with you about this should buy a Mac and try not enabling iCloud. There's constant nags and as far as I could find, no way to turn them off.

musicale 2y ago

1) Have you tried installing Linux? ;-) 2) I have booted macOS VMs without iCloud. I'm not sure of the nags though. I believe signing out of iCloud will prevent iCloud from contacting Apple. https://support.apple.com/en-us/104958 https://support.apple.com/en-us/104958

m463 2y ago
1) yes:) 2) that is entirely NOT true. You should install little snitch and see what happens even if you NEVER sign into icloud. note that the phone home contact is not immediate, it happens in the background at random intervals from random applications. just some random services blocked by little snitch on a mac: accountsd, adprivacyd, airportd, AMPLibraryAgent, appstoreagent, apsd, AssetCacheLocatorService.xpc, cloudd, com.apple.geod.xpc, com.apple.Safari.SafeBrowsing.Service, commerce, configd, familycircled, mapspushd, nsurlsessiond, ocspd, rapportd, remindd, Safari, sntp, softwareupdated, Spotlight, sutdentd, syspolicyd, touristd, transparencyd, trustd, X11.bin (never signed into an apple id)
- nativeit 2y ago
  Tell me more about how dastardly it is that Safari communicates with Apple servers. Type it from your browser that doesn’t communicate directly with its developers.
  - nativeit 2y ago
    Judging from a lot of these comments, most of the folks here are reading/commenting via telnet.

dyauspitr 2y ago

I’ve never used iCloud since it came out. I can’t think of a single nag. Where do you see it on your iPhone or Mac?

Takennickname 2y ago
I have an iPad (not iPhone or Mac). If you don't set up Icloud, there's always an annoying bright red circle in settings that tells you to "finish setting up your iPad". Doesn't have to be bright red, or even there at all.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  Last time I had that on a laptop I was going to wipe soon afterward and didn’t want to fully set up, I clicked the “finish setting up” link and canceled out. Voila, red circle gone.
  - jfoster 2y ago
    Gone until a few days or a week later, when it comes back.
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  Yes, that’s the only one I’ve seen. But it’s not much of a nag.
jfoster 2y ago
There's several of them. The most annoying for me was getting intermittent notifications to sign in to iCloud. There's also this one: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250727947 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250727947 I eventually just gave in to stop the nags.