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> even if we can't verify that their sanctioned use case is secure, the cloud OS could be a great step forward in secure inference and secure clouds, which peop
by transpute 2y ago
> even if we can't verify that their sanctioned use case is secure, the cloud OS could be a great step forward in secure inference and secure clouds, which people could independently host or build an independent derivative of
Yes, the tech industry loves to copy Apple :)
Asahi Linux has a good overview of on-device boot chain security, https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Apple-Platform-Security-Crash-Course https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Apple-Platform-Secur...
> My main concern right now is that if virtualization is employed in their actual deployment, there could be a backdoor that passes keys from secure enclaves in still-proprietary parts of the OSes running on user devices to a hypervisor we didn't audit that can access the containers.
We’ll release a PCC Virtual Research Environment: a set of tools and images that simulate a PCC node on a Mac with Apple silicon, and that can boot a version of PCC software minimally modified for successful virtualization.
This seems to imply that PCC nodes are bare-metal.
Could a PCC node be simulated on iPad Pro with M4 Apple Silicon?
- advael 2y ago> Yes, the tech industry loves to copy Apple :) Yes, most technology is built on other technology ;) > This seems to imply that normal PCC nodes are bare-metal. I realize that, but there's plausible deniability in it, especially since the modification could also hide the mechanism I've described in some other virtualization context that uses the unmodified image, without the statement being untrue
- DEADMINCE 2y ago> Yes, the tech industry loves to copy Apple :) Eh, it goes both ways. Even Apple devices got widgets eventually :)