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Add on top of that the communities they do have are all virtual. Virtual groups are a fine addition to, but not a good replacement for physical interaction. Be

Add on top of that the communities they do have are all virtual. Virtual groups are a fine addition to, but not a good replacement for physical interaction. Being in physical proximity is just a fundamentally different experience. I remember rather fondly the days of LAN parties, and a small part of me wishes we had kept the networking without going all the way to the Internet. Yes, the irony of this post, and my career as primarily a developer of websites, is not lost on me.

squigz 2y ago
> Add on top of that the communities they do have are all virtual. Virtual groups are a fine addition to, but not a good replacement for physical interaction. Why not?
- zdragnar 2y ago
  There are a number of takes on this. Everything from limited physical expressiveness, to fundamentally different and more limited conversational abilities in group settings, to a lack of physical preference having subtle emotional changes in how the setting is experienced and probably more things that have been and are being researched. As a microcosm of community breakdown and virtual replacing physical space, just look at the psychological and social impacts of virtual schooling during COVID-19 lockdowns. Obviously, the existential dread of illness, stress of family finances and restricted freedom are all confounding here, so the extent to which physical versus virtual played a role is debatable. Even so, I don't think there's much debate at all that Zoom meetings are in any way a viable substitute for in person classroom teaching and social development.
- naasking 2y ago
  If you're being serious, then you're suggesting that it would be perfectly healthy for a person to literally just lie in bed all day and only interact with people virtually. If you think that isn't healthy, then you are acknowledging that virtual groups are not a replacement for physical interaction, even if you disagree with others on how much physical interaction is required.
  - squigz 2y ago
    I don't believe that's what I suggested at all. I believe I asked GP why they believed what they said.
  - WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
    > If you're being serious, then you're suggesting that it would be perfectly healthy for a person to literally just lie in bed all day and only interact with people virtually. It's what adults have (mostly) left for (most US) kids to do - when adults replaced free roaming areas with roads and private property. ref: https://i.redd.it/32yuwrnvgi491.jpg https://i.redd.it/32yuwrnvgi491.jpg As a child, I could walk in any direction and either find area to explore (safe from interfering adults) or find other kids. Same as my parents, g-parents, ancestors going back 10s x 1000s of years. My kids had nowhere to go. Same for their peers all over. I'm fine with taking away their ~only practical method of connecting as long as we return the spaces kids had for connecting (thruout history).

squigz 2y ago

> Add on top of that the communities they do have are all virtual. Virtual groups are a fine addition to, but not a good replacement for physical interaction. Why not?

zdragnar 2y ago
There are a number of takes on this. Everything from limited physical expressiveness, to fundamentally different and more limited conversational abilities in group settings, to a lack of physical preference having subtle emotional changes in how the setting is experienced and probably more things that have been and are being researched. As a microcosm of community breakdown and virtual replacing physical space, just look at the psychological and social impacts of virtual schooling during COVID-19 lockdowns. Obviously, the existential dread of illness, stress of family finances and restricted freedom are all confounding here, so the extent to which physical versus virtual played a role is debatable. Even so, I don't think there's much debate at all that Zoom meetings are in any way a viable substitute for in person classroom teaching and social development.
naasking 2y ago
If you're being serious, then you're suggesting that it would be perfectly healthy for a person to literally just lie in bed all day and only interact with people virtually. If you think that isn't healthy, then you are acknowledging that virtual groups are not a replacement for physical interaction, even if you disagree with others on how much physical interaction is required.
- squigz 2y ago
  I don't believe that's what I suggested at all. I believe I asked GP why they believed what they said.
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
  > If you're being serious, then you're suggesting that it would be perfectly healthy for a person to literally just lie in bed all day and only interact with people virtually. It's what adults have (mostly) left for (most US) kids to do - when adults replaced free roaming areas with roads and private property. ref: https://i.redd.it/32yuwrnvgi491.jpg https://i.redd.it/32yuwrnvgi491.jpg As a child, I could walk in any direction and either find area to explore (safe from interfering adults) or find other kids. Same as my parents, g-parents, ancestors going back 10s x 1000s of years. My kids had nowhere to go. Same for their peers all over. I'm fine with taking away their ~only practical method of connecting as long as we return the spaces kids had for connecting (thruout history).