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It's odd...I've gotten along fine without AI in my iPhone 13, and it will continue to work just as I have come to expect with the new iOS. The new AI features

It's odd...I've gotten along fine without AI in my iPhone 13, and it will continue to work just as I have come to expect with the new iOS. The new AI features will be available on the iPad Air I just ordered, and on my M1 MacBook Air, and I'll be able to play with them there until I'm ready to upgrade my phone. I think these new features sound great, but I'm not in any hurry to adopt them wholesale.

gumby 2y ago
> I think these new features sound great, but I'm not in any hurry to adopt them wholesale. And if you don’t like them you don’t have to use them. I don’t use Siri and it doesn’t bother me that Apple includes it on all their machines.
- hansvm 2y ago
  > I don't use Siri That's likely true. Unless you were careful to do a lot more than just disabling it, it does use you though, slurping up quite a bit of data.
  - flemhans 2y ago
    How?
    - hansvm 2y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40647751 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40647751
  - whoiskevin 2y ago
    reference? Proof? How is it slurping data if I have it turned off and don't even use it?
    - hansvm 2y ago
      You have to disable the data slurping for each app. The main toggle just governs whether it responds to voice commands. Previous discussion [0]. Separately, the data Siri sends isn't held to the same differential privacy standards as some of Apple's other diagnostics. They just give you a unique ID and yolo it [1]. Unless personalized device behaviors are somehow less identifiable than all the other classes of data subject to deanonymization attacks (demographics, software/hardware version fingerprints, ...), that unique ID is just to be able to pretend to the courts that they tried (give or take Hanlon's razor). [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 [1] https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/ask-siri-dictation/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/ask-siri-dictati...

gumby 2y ago

> I think these new features sound great, but I'm not in any hurry to adopt them wholesale. And if you don’t like them you don’t have to use them. I don’t use Siri and it doesn’t bother me that Apple includes it on all their machines.

hansvm 2y ago
> I don't use Siri That's likely true. Unless you were careful to do a lot more than just disabling it, it does use you though, slurping up quite a bit of data.
- flemhans 2y ago
  How?
  - hansvm 2y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40647751 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40647751
- whoiskevin 2y ago
  reference? Proof? How is it slurping data if I have it turned off and don't even use it?
  - hansvm 2y ago
    You have to disable the data slurping for each app. The main toggle just governs whether it responds to voice commands. Previous discussion [0]. Separately, the data Siri sends isn't held to the same differential privacy standards as some of Apple's other diagnostics. They just give you a unique ID and yolo it [1]. Unless personalized device behaviors are somehow less identifiable than all the other classes of data subject to deanonymization attacks (demographics, software/hardware version fingerprints, ...), that unique ID is just to be able to pretend to the courts that they tried (give or take Hanlon's razor). [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 [1] https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/ask-siri-dictation/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/ask-siri-dictati...