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GasBuddy is an optional app, right? Apple is very up front about what apps are going to get access to things like location, with user prompts to allow/deny. Mea

GasBuddy is an optional app, right? Apple is very up front about what apps are going to get access to things like location, with user prompts to allow/deny. Meaning you are opting in to a lack of privacy, which is very expected behavior? The default Apple apps (maps, messaging, safari) are solid from a privacy perspective, and I don't think you can say the same about the default apps on competitors phones.

Spod_Gaju 2y ago
I am sorry I used GasBuddy as an example since I agree it is a stretch, but still not one I disagree with. But let's get back to Apple...if it was functioning at "100% user privacy" would it be able to give access to your data to law enforcement? As an example, I consider MullvadVPN to be 99% user privacy.
- Daneel_ 2y ago
  Based on Apple's previous track record, the answer is very likely "no".
  - Spod_Gaju 2y ago
    You sure? https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2024/04/10/new-apple-iphone-privacy-warning-issued-by-researchers/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2024/04/10/new-...
- its_ethan 2y ago
  Does this answer your question? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute#Apple's_opposition_to_the_order) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute#A...
  - Spod_Gaju 2y ago
    No. That was concerning unlocking the phone. I’m talking about the data that they store on iCloud.
    - jachee 2y ago
      The data stored on iCloud is locked with the key from the devices’ Secure Enclave. They’d have to unlock your device to get access to decrypt the iCloud data.
    - krrrh 2y ago
      I already linked to this article on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud (e2ee for most things) in a different comment, but it feels like a lot of people don’t know about this feature. It literally has zero effect on the user experience (except janky access to iCloud via the web, but shrug). Apple’s competitors don’t have anything close and their business models mean they probably never will. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102651 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102651

Spod_Gaju 2y ago

I am sorry I used GasBuddy as an example since I agree it is a stretch, but still not one I disagree with. But let's get back to Apple...if it was functioning at "100% user privacy" would it be able to give access to your data to law enforcement? As an example, I consider MullvadVPN to be 99% user privacy.

Daneel_ 2y ago
Based on Apple's previous track record, the answer is very likely "no".
- Spod_Gaju 2y ago
  You sure? https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2024/04/10/new-apple-iphone-privacy-warning-issued-by-researchers/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2024/04/10/new-...
its_ethan 2y ago
Does this answer your question? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute#Apple's_opposition_to_the_order) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute#A...
- Spod_Gaju 2y ago
  No. That was concerning unlocking the phone. I’m talking about the data that they store on iCloud.
  - jachee 2y ago
    The data stored on iCloud is locked with the key from the devices’ Secure Enclave. They’d have to unlock your device to get access to decrypt the iCloud data.
  - krrrh 2y ago
    I already linked to this article on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud (e2ee for most things) in a different comment, but it feels like a lot of people don’t know about this feature. It literally has zero effect on the user experience (except janky access to iCloud via the web, but shrug). Apple’s competitors don’t have anything close and their business models mean they probably never will. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102651 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102651