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Happy as long as there is a switch to toggle it all off somewhere. I find very little of this useful. Maybe someone does, and that’s great! And my concern isn’

by doawoo 2y ago

Happy as long as there is a switch to toggle it all off somewhere. I find very little of this useful. Maybe someone does, and that’s great! And my concern isn’t from a privacy perspective, just a “I want less things cluttering my screen” perspective. So far though it looks like it’s decent at being opt-in in nature. So that’s all good.

theshrike79 2y ago
It's actually taking LESS screen space, because "Siri" is now just a glowing edge on your screen. And good news! You can clear your homescreen too fully from all icons now =)
doutatsu 2y ago
I feel like this is actually the thing you want when you say "less things cluttering my screen". Siri can now be that assistant, that summarises or does things, that would instead make you go through various screens or apps. Feels like it rescues clutter, not increases it to me imo
- doawoo 2y ago
  I simply cannot agree, but again, it's a personal thing. I never ever find voice interfaces useful though... Aside: When the presenter showed the demo of her asking Siri to figure out the airport arrival time and then gloat it "would have taken minutes" to do on her own... I sat there and just felt so so strongly that I don't want to optimize out every possible opportunity to think or work out a problem in my life for the sake of "keeping on top of my inbox". I understand value of the tools. But I think overall nothing about them feels very worth showing even more menus for me to tick through to make the magic statistical model spit out the tone of words I want... when I could have just sat there and thought about my words and the actual, real, human person I'm talking to, and rephrase my email by hand.
  - deergomoo 2y ago
    > I don't want to optimize out every possible opportunity to think or work out a problem in my life for the sake of "keeping on top of my inbox" Completely agree. My first thought on seeing this stuff is that it suggests we, as an industry, have failed to create software that fulfils users’ needs, given we’re effectively talking about using another computer to automate using our computers. My second thought is that it’s only a matter of time before AI starts pushing profitable interests just like seemingly all other software does. How long before you ask some AI tool how to achieve something and it starts pitching you on CloudService+ for only 4.99 per month?
Optimal_Persona 2y ago
My thoughts exactly, as someone who manages 145 iPhones for a health-care org, all of this stuff needs to be completely blockable and granularly manageable in Mobile Device Management or things could go very, very wrong compliance-wise.
LogHouse 2y ago
Strong agree here. Features are cool, but I value screen real estate and simplicity. Plus, the gpt app works fine for me. I don’t need it built into other things yet.

by doawoo 2y ago

theshrike79 2y ago

It's actually taking LESS screen space, because "Siri" is now just a glowing edge on your screen. And good news! You can clear your homescreen too fully from all icons now =)

doutatsu 2y ago

I feel like this is actually the thing you want when you say "less things cluttering my screen". Siri can now be that assistant, that summarises or does things, that would instead make you go through various screens or apps. Feels like it rescues clutter, not increases it to me imo

doawoo 2y ago
I simply cannot agree, but again, it's a personal thing. I never ever find voice interfaces useful though... Aside: When the presenter showed the demo of her asking Siri to figure out the airport arrival time and then gloat it "would have taken minutes" to do on her own... I sat there and just felt so so strongly that I don't want to optimize out every possible opportunity to think or work out a problem in my life for the sake of "keeping on top of my inbox". I understand value of the tools. But I think overall nothing about them feels very worth showing even more menus for me to tick through to make the magic statistical model spit out the tone of words I want... when I could have just sat there and thought about my words and the actual, real, human person I'm talking to, and rephrase my email by hand.
- deergomoo 2y ago
  > I don't want to optimize out every possible opportunity to think or work out a problem in my life for the sake of "keeping on top of my inbox" Completely agree. My first thought on seeing this stuff is that it suggests we, as an industry, have failed to create software that fulfils users’ needs, given we’re effectively talking about using another computer to automate using our computers. My second thought is that it’s only a matter of time before AI starts pushing profitable interests just like seemingly all other software does. How long before you ask some AI tool how to achieve something and it starts pitching you on CloudService+ for only 4.99 per month?

Optimal_Persona 2y ago

My thoughts exactly, as someone who manages 145 iPhones for a health-care org, all of this stuff needs to be completely blockable and granularly manageable in Mobile Device Management or things could go very, very wrong compliance-wise.

LogHouse 2y ago

Strong agree here. Features are cool, but I value screen real estate and simplicity. Plus, the gpt app works fine for me. I don’t need it built into other things yet.