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Migadu does have a web client (webmail.migadu.com). It is the barest of bare bones (certainly fewer features than Gmail or Fastmail), but does the job just fine

Migadu does have a web client (webmail.migadu.com). It is the barest of bare bones (certainly fewer features than Gmail or Fastmail), but does the job just fine for basic tasks, at least.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
Yeah, I'm aware but did not consider it, for me being able to snooze-send emails as well as snooze received emails is very important (I'm an old Inbox user), so the bare client didn't pass the default test. It's also not amazing from the usability perspective, but it does the job for occasional usage. I love Migadu and have no intention of dropping it, it's just frustrating that email clients come only bundled with email services with dumb pricing structure (really in 2024 I can only have 1 domain per user for my emails!? What if I have a work email and a personal one?) I often create projects and want domains for those, yes it might end up with garbage and nothing out of it, but it's insane I have to pay some $5/month for an email account that will receive 1 email in its entire lifetime, it makes no sense. With migadu I'm free to experiment, my cost is based on emails sent and received (an actual cost), not on my dummy accounts that I experiment with.
- WorldMaker 2y ago
  I can understand that frustration that webmail clients are currently very vendor specific. Though I'm also an old school user that switches among Outlook (Desktop [New], Mobile), Apple's Mail app, Thunderbird, and a few other clients based on several whims/current preferences. Migadu supports IMAP very well and I don't feel tied to a specific client and webmail is a "nice-to-have" for some edge cases, never my main client. Off the top of my head, Outlook and Thunderbird both support snooze/delay/schedule-send in various ways. I don't know about "snooze received emails". (I was never an Inbox user.) (Outlook has Flagging for Follow-Up and you can set your own deadline?) There's a lot more IMAP clients than just the ones I bounce among, too. It used to be IMAP clients were where all the innovation was in email clients. It is a bit unfortunate Gmail changed the dynamic so much that people today think webmail clients should be the client-side innovators.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
    Well the problem is IMAP is a protocol and takes longer to change. I doubt IMAP has anything related to snoozing emails, isn't that the case? I will try a few. My concern is having a shared space for contacts too (google has been my go-to area for contacts), since I need to use it for the phone. I need a client for android and one for desktop, or a web client that works for both (but should support offline on mobile!)
    - WorldMaker 2y ago
      It's not necessarily a feature that needs to be embedded in the protocol. There's lots of innovation clients (and servers) can do independently even with a shared protocol. That said, I'm still curious if JMAP might ever get much traction outside of Fastmail and a few others. They make a good point that having an HTTP-capable and JSON speaking protocol opens up potential webmail client innovation in good ways. But I don't expect we'll see a much faster adoption curve than the currently slow trickle.
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
        Agreed! And yes, JSON and http would simplify a lot of things. I was considering writing my own email client for a while, but instead I pivoted to my own budgeting app for now. Will get to the email client if I ever have time, lol

Migadu does have a web client (webmail.migadu.com). It is the barest of bare bones (certainly fewer features than Gmail or Fastmail), but does the job just fine for basic tasks, at least.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago

Yeah, I'm aware but did not consider it, for me being able to snooze-send emails as well as snooze received emails is very important (I'm an old Inbox user), so the bare client didn't pass the default test. It's also not amazing from the usability perspective, but it does the job for occasional usage. I love Migadu and have no intention of dropping it, it's just frustrating that email clients come only bundled with email services with dumb pricing structure (really in 2024 I can only have 1 domain per user for my emails!? What if I have a work email and a personal one?) I often create projects and want domains for those, yes it might end up with garbage and nothing out of it, but it's insane I have to pay some $5/month for an email account that will receive 1 email in its entire lifetime, it makes no sense. With migadu I'm free to experiment, my cost is based on emails sent and received (an actual cost), not on my dummy accounts that I experiment with.

WorldMaker 2y ago
I can understand that frustration that webmail clients are currently very vendor specific. Though I'm also an old school user that switches among Outlook (Desktop [New], Mobile), Apple's Mail app, Thunderbird, and a few other clients based on several whims/current preferences. Migadu supports IMAP very well and I don't feel tied to a specific client and webmail is a "nice-to-have" for some edge cases, never my main client. Off the top of my head, Outlook and Thunderbird both support snooze/delay/schedule-send in various ways. I don't know about "snooze received emails". (I was never an Inbox user.) (Outlook has Flagging for Follow-Up and you can set your own deadline?) There's a lot more IMAP clients than just the ones I bounce among, too. It used to be IMAP clients were where all the innovation was in email clients. It is a bit unfortunate Gmail changed the dynamic so much that people today think webmail clients should be the client-side innovators.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
  Well the problem is IMAP is a protocol and takes longer to change. I doubt IMAP has anything related to snoozing emails, isn't that the case? I will try a few. My concern is having a shared space for contacts too (google has been my go-to area for contacts), since I need to use it for the phone. I need a client for android and one for desktop, or a web client that works for both (but should support offline on mobile!)
  - WorldMaker 2y ago
    It's not necessarily a feature that needs to be embedded in the protocol. There's lots of innovation clients (and servers) can do independently even with a shared protocol. That said, I'm still curious if JMAP might ever get much traction outside of Fastmail and a few others. They make a good point that having an HTTP-capable and JSON speaking protocol opens up potential webmail client innovation in good ways. But I don't expect we'll see a much faster adoption curve than the currently slow trickle.
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
      Agreed! And yes, JSON and http would simplify a lot of things. I was considering writing my own email client for a while, but instead I pivoted to my own budgeting app for now. Will get to the email client if I ever have time, lol