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Turn off what part and why? They announced several new systems, much of which runs on-device, one of which is simply an improved Siri. I was surprised by how co

Turn off what part and why? They announced several new systems, much of which runs on-device, one of which is simply an improved Siri. I was surprised by how considerate they seemed about AI data privacy, even for Apple.

pessimizer 2y ago
> Turn off what part and why? Assume any part, and assume none of your business.
- everfree 2y ago
  It's not reasonable to expect to be able to turn off "any part" of a piece of software, unless it's open source and you're digging through the code yourself to remove sections of it, refactor and re-compile everything. That said, Apple generally gives people very fine-grained controls over what software features they want enabled, at least compared to other closed-source software vendors. My question "what part and why" was intended to open up a discussion about privacy in regards to Apple's AI. But if your answer is simply "none of your business", then my answer to the question "can I turn it off" is simply "nobody has any way of knowing yet." Neither of those answers are great discussion openers. Your username seems to check out.
  - demondemidi 2y ago
    I don't want any part of my personal data (what I write, what I photograph, what I record, what I jot down) to be viewed by anything by my own eyes or the encryption algorithm converting it to ciphertext to send across a secure channel WITHOUT MY CONSENT. Period. Reason: again, nobody's business. If you don't get this then, a) you're not in a high-risk group for discrimination, or b) you've never been subjected systemic polices designed to keep you "in line".
    - nottorp 2y ago
      I do wonder if my privacy awareness has a connection with the fact that I lived the first 13 years of my life under an eastern block dictatorship ... However in this case I'm also concerned about needless power consumption. Especially on battery.
      - theshrike79 2y ago
        In most cases the one using most power in a modern smartphone is the display. And knowing Apple, the RAG-stuff will be done overnight when the phone is charging, not during use.
    - everfree 2y ago
      I do get this. I don't know why you'd assume I don't. And the sentiment behind your comment seems very reasonable, reading past its non-sequitur tone.

pessimizer 2y ago

> Turn off what part and why? Assume any part, and assume none of your business.

everfree 2y ago
It's not reasonable to expect to be able to turn off "any part" of a piece of software, unless it's open source and you're digging through the code yourself to remove sections of it, refactor and re-compile everything. That said, Apple generally gives people very fine-grained controls over what software features they want enabled, at least compared to other closed-source software vendors. My question "what part and why" was intended to open up a discussion about privacy in regards to Apple's AI. But if your answer is simply "none of your business", then my answer to the question "can I turn it off" is simply "nobody has any way of knowing yet." Neither of those answers are great discussion openers. Your username seems to check out.
- demondemidi 2y ago
  I don't want any part of my personal data (what I write, what I photograph, what I record, what I jot down) to be viewed by anything by my own eyes or the encryption algorithm converting it to ciphertext to send across a secure channel WITHOUT MY CONSENT. Period. Reason: again, nobody's business. If you don't get this then, a) you're not in a high-risk group for discrimination, or b) you've never been subjected systemic polices designed to keep you "in line".
  - nottorp 2y ago
    I do wonder if my privacy awareness has a connection with the fact that I lived the first 13 years of my life under an eastern block dictatorship ... However in this case I'm also concerned about needless power consumption. Especially on battery.
    - theshrike79 2y ago
      In most cases the one using most power in a modern smartphone is the display. And knowing Apple, the RAG-stuff will be done overnight when the phone is charging, not during use.
  - everfree 2y ago
    I do get this. I don't know why you'd assume I don't. And the sentiment behind your comment seems very reasonable, reading past its non-sequitur tone.