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Said this in the other thread, but I am really bothered that image generation is a thing but also that it got as much attention as it did. I am worried about t

Said this in the other thread, but I am really bothered that image generation is a thing but also that it got as much attention as it did. I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations. That being said, the polish and actual usefulness of these features is really interesting. It may not have some of the flashiest things being thrown around but the things shown are actually useful things. Glad that ChatGPT is optional each time Siri thinks it would be useful. My only big question is, can I disable any online component and what does that mean if something can't be processed locally? I also have to wonder, given their talk about the servers running the same chips. Is it just that the models can't run locally or is it possibly context related? I am not seeing anything if it is entire features or just some requests. I wonder if that implies that over time different hardware will run different levels of requests locally vs the cloud.

skybrian 2y ago
Regarding image generation, it seems the Image Playground supports three styles: Animation, Illustration, or Sketch. Notice what's missing? A photorealistic style. It seems like a good move on their part. I'm not that wild about the cartoon-ification of everything with more memes and more emojis, but at least it's obviously made-up; this is oriented toward "fun" stuff. A lot of kids will like it. Adults, too. There's still going to be controversy because people will still generate things in really poor taste, but it lowers the stakes.
- maronato 2y ago
  I noticed that too, but my conclusion is that they probably hand-picked every image and description in their training data so that the final model doesn’t even know what the poor taste stuff is.
  - 0xfae 2y ago
    Exactly. And, I'm assuming, it will reject any prompts or words in poor taste.
kylehotchkiss 2y ago
> I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations. I am worried at the infinite ability of teenagers to hack around the guardrails and generate some probably not safe for school images for the next 2 years while apple figures out how to get them under control.
intended 2y ago
They hid the workaround for this - it’s going to be available in US english first, and then other locations over the coming year. This can be never. LLMs fail fast as you move away from high resourced languages.
skydhash 2y ago
> I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations. I think it shows the context for the information it presents. Like the messages, events and other stuff. So you can quickly check if the answer is correct. So it's more about semantic search, but with a more flexible text describing the result.
latexr 2y ago
> I wonder if that implies that over time different hardware will run different levels of requests locally vs the cloud. I bet that’s going to be the case. I think they added the servers as a stop-gap out of necessity, but what they see as the ideal situation is the time when they can turn those off because all devices they sell have been able to run everything locally for X amount of time.
- solarmist 2y ago
  I’m betting 100% on this. And I think the new sidecar controlling your phone is an example of where they’re going in reverse. If you have a M6 MacBook/ipad pro it’ll run your AI queries there if you’re on the same network in two-four years.

skybrian 2y ago

Regarding image generation, it seems the Image Playground supports three styles: Animation, Illustration, or Sketch. Notice what's missing? A photorealistic style. It seems like a good move on their part. I'm not that wild about the cartoon-ification of everything with more memes and more emojis, but at least it's obviously made-up; this is oriented toward "fun" stuff. A lot of kids will like it. Adults, too. There's still going to be controversy because people will still generate things in really poor taste, but it lowers the stakes.

maronato 2y ago
I noticed that too, but my conclusion is that they probably hand-picked every image and description in their training data so that the final model doesn’t even know what the poor taste stuff is.
- 0xfae 2y ago
  Exactly. And, I'm assuming, it will reject any prompts or words in poor taste.

kylehotchkiss 2y ago

> I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations. I am worried at the infinite ability of teenagers to hack around the guardrails and generate some probably not safe for school images for the next 2 years while apple figures out how to get them under control.

intended 2y ago

They hid the workaround for this - it’s going to be available in US english first, and then other locations over the coming year. This can be never. LLMs fail fast as you move away from high resourced languages.

skydhash 2y ago

> I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations. I think it shows the context for the information it presents. Like the messages, events and other stuff. So you can quickly check if the answer is correct. So it's more about semantic search, but with a more flexible text describing the result.

latexr 2y ago

> I wonder if that implies that over time different hardware will run different levels of requests locally vs the cloud. I bet that’s going to be the case. I think they added the servers as a stop-gap out of necessity, but what they see as the ideal situation is the time when they can turn those off because all devices they sell have been able to run everything locally for X amount of time.

solarmist 2y ago
I’m betting 100% on this. And I think the new sidecar controlling your phone is an example of where they’re going in reverse. If you have a M6 MacBook/ipad pro it’ll run your AI queries there if you’re on the same network in two-four years.