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This needs to be multiplatform for it to be a viable option for the more tech inclined. I run all three major desktop operating systems plus iOS, so I use Bitwa

by ein0p 2y ago

This needs to be multiplatform for it to be a viable option for the more tech inclined. I run all three major desktop operating systems plus iOS, so I use Bitwarden

hot_gril 2y ago
I've found it easier to use Keychain as my "master database" and selectively copy passwords as needed into whatever browsers on non-Apple devices, granted it's not super often. Also, often I can directly use my phone to authenticate another device (passkeys, TOTP, or custom solutions).
nullindividual 2y ago
It is available across the two major desktop operating systems, but you'd have to read the article to find that out. > The Passwords app is free to download, available across iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and MacOS 15, and will also work with the Vision Pro and Windows computers, says Apple.
- mrinterweb 2y ago
  Unless Apple treats every major OS as a first class citizen for this password management app, this becomes another form of ecosystem/vendor lock-in. Have all your passwords securely stored in our app? Thinking about buying an Android phone? Think again. Of the major tech companies, Apple probably has the worst track record of not playing nice with other platforms, walled gardens and all. Passwords are needed on all platforms. Apple would be the last company I would trust to ensure that I would be able to access my passwords anywhere I may need them.
- hot_gril 2y ago
  I actually read the article and didn't see this at first. It's mentioned at the very bottom, right above the "featured stuff" and unrelated article below it, and after a lot of text about what Passwords does that Keychain already did.
- smsm42 2y ago
  No Linux or Android, which makes it useless for anybody having any devices running those. And since nobody wants to use two password managers, it remains a better solution to use a truly multi-platform one.
  - sircastor 2y ago
    The Android one puzzles me a bit. We were Android + Mac for a very long time, more than a decade. I've switched to iOS over the last few years, but my wife remains a dedicated Android user. I don't really want to switch from BitWarden, but if I did Passwords would be a non-starter for us because of this. I suppose that Apple really considers the iPhone to be the center of its customer's lives, with a Mac or Windows computer... rather than my view, of my computer being the center and my phone tertiary.
    - swores 2y ago
      I think you might have it the wrong way round, and that you're a good example of why they do it. You actually care about your computer, and if software isn't available for your OS then you're unlikely to ever switch OS to use it. But you could be persuaded to move to iPhone, and maybe if enough new Apple services (which aren't available on Android) tempt your wife then she might make her next phone an iPhone, too? Apple cares more about persuading people to switch from Android to iPhone than about Windows to Mac. But I also suspect there are many more Windows+iPhone people than Mac+Android.
  - nullindividual 2y ago
    Linux isn't even relevant in this context with it's <1% DWM install base. Android, yes you have a point, though a Mac and Android is a strange combination.
    - smsm42 2y ago
      What's strange in it? I've been using macs and android phones for over a decade. And a lot of tech savvy people do the same. Macbooks have been a solid dev platform for a while, and do not really require any mobile platform preference.
- neocritter 2y ago
  The existence of a port does not guarantee future support of a port. Safari used to run on Windows. They're also somewhat notorious for trash quality Windows ports.
- ein0p 2y ago
  If it’s anything like their other Windows apps, Bitwarden is still going to be a superior option.
- haswell 2y ago
  Desktop Linux market share continues to grow and as a part of that group, I rely on 1Password because I can use it across all of my systems. The other major password managers are on Linux, and Apple will need to support Linux for this new offering to be interesting to me.
stvltvs 2y ago
I'm using KeepassXC for similar reasons although there's no official Android port last I checked.
- josephcsible 2y ago
  The official site recommends KeePassDX and KeePass2Android: https://keepassxc.org/docs/#faq-platform-mobile https://keepassxc.org/docs/#faq-platform-mobile
- Tyrannosaur 2y ago
  Keepass2Android has been working great for me for almost a decade now https://github.com/PhilippC/keepass2android https://github.com/PhilippC/keepass2android
jrexilius 2y ago
My approach has been to move all of the critical secrets out of the vendor device and embed it in a keyboard. It then works with anything that accepts a keyboard.. I'll be releasing this as open source (hardware & software) soon: https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/ https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/
- hiatus 2y ago
  How far out is the phone peripheral?
  - jrexilius 2y ago
    Sadly, proly not till next year. I'm funding this myself and hardware is hard. Embedding it into a case has a whole lotta mechanical engineering challenges as well. The desktop and tablet version will be released this year though.
    - hiatus 2y ago
      I'd be interested in the phone version just for the keyboard. Closest I've seen is https://www.clicks.tech/ https://www.clicks.tech/ but I do not have an iPhone.
      - jrexilius 2y ago
        Yeah, I miss the real physical keyboards. I started with the Palm Treo smart phone in 2001 and stuck with Palm till they died. Better even than blackberry keyboards.

by ein0p 2y ago

This needs to be multiplatform for it to be a viable option for the more tech inclined. I run all three major desktop operating systems plus iOS, so I use Bitwarden

hot_gril 2y ago

I've found it easier to use Keychain as my "master database" and selectively copy passwords as needed into whatever browsers on non-Apple devices, granted it's not super often. Also, often I can directly use my phone to authenticate another device (passkeys, TOTP, or custom solutions).

nullindividual 2y ago

It is available across the two major desktop operating systems, but you'd have to read the article to find that out. > The Passwords app is free to download, available across iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and MacOS 15, and will also work with the Vision Pro and Windows computers, says Apple.

mrinterweb 2y ago
Unless Apple treats every major OS as a first class citizen for this password management app, this becomes another form of ecosystem/vendor lock-in. Have all your passwords securely stored in our app? Thinking about buying an Android phone? Think again. Of the major tech companies, Apple probably has the worst track record of not playing nice with other platforms, walled gardens and all. Passwords are needed on all platforms. Apple would be the last company I would trust to ensure that I would be able to access my passwords anywhere I may need them.
hot_gril 2y ago
I actually read the article and didn't see this at first. It's mentioned at the very bottom, right above the "featured stuff" and unrelated article below it, and after a lot of text about what Passwords does that Keychain already did.
smsm42 2y ago
No Linux or Android, which makes it useless for anybody having any devices running those. And since nobody wants to use two password managers, it remains a better solution to use a truly multi-platform one.
- sircastor 2y ago
  The Android one puzzles me a bit. We were Android + Mac for a very long time, more than a decade. I've switched to iOS over the last few years, but my wife remains a dedicated Android user. I don't really want to switch from BitWarden, but if I did Passwords would be a non-starter for us because of this. I suppose that Apple really considers the iPhone to be the center of its customer's lives, with a Mac or Windows computer... rather than my view, of my computer being the center and my phone tertiary.
  - swores 2y ago
    I think you might have it the wrong way round, and that you're a good example of why they do it. You actually care about your computer, and if software isn't available for your OS then you're unlikely to ever switch OS to use it. But you could be persuaded to move to iPhone, and maybe if enough new Apple services (which aren't available on Android) tempt your wife then she might make her next phone an iPhone, too? Apple cares more about persuading people to switch from Android to iPhone than about Windows to Mac. But I also suspect there are many more Windows+iPhone people than Mac+Android.
- nullindividual 2y ago
  Linux isn't even relevant in this context with it's <1% DWM install base. Android, yes you have a point, though a Mac and Android is a strange combination.
  - smsm42 2y ago
    What's strange in it? I've been using macs and android phones for over a decade. And a lot of tech savvy people do the same. Macbooks have been a solid dev platform for a while, and do not really require any mobile platform preference.
neocritter 2y ago
The existence of a port does not guarantee future support of a port. Safari used to run on Windows. They're also somewhat notorious for trash quality Windows ports.
ein0p 2y ago
If it’s anything like their other Windows apps, Bitwarden is still going to be a superior option.
haswell 2y ago
Desktop Linux market share continues to grow and as a part of that group, I rely on 1Password because I can use it across all of my systems. The other major password managers are on Linux, and Apple will need to support Linux for this new offering to be interesting to me.

stvltvs 2y ago

I'm using KeepassXC for similar reasons although there's no official Android port last I checked.

josephcsible 2y ago
The official site recommends KeePassDX and KeePass2Android: https://keepassxc.org/docs/#faq-platform-mobile https://keepassxc.org/docs/#faq-platform-mobile
Tyrannosaur 2y ago
Keepass2Android has been working great for me for almost a decade now https://github.com/PhilippC/keepass2android https://github.com/PhilippC/keepass2android

jrexilius 2y ago

My approach has been to move all of the critical secrets out of the vendor device and embed it in a keyboard. It then works with anything that accepts a keyboard.. I'll be releasing this as open source (hardware & software) soon: https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/ https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/

hiatus 2y ago
How far out is the phone peripheral?
- jrexilius 2y ago
  Sadly, proly not till next year. I'm funding this myself and hardware is hard. Embedding it into a case has a whole lotta mechanical engineering challenges as well. The desktop and tablet version will be released this year though.
  - hiatus 2y ago
    I'd be interested in the phone version just for the keyboard. Closest I've seen is https://www.clicks.tech/ https://www.clicks.tech/ but I do not have an iPhone.
    - jrexilius 2y ago
      Yeah, I miss the real physical keyboards. I started with the Palm Treo smart phone in 2001 and stuck with Palm till they died. Better even than blackberry keyboards.