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Wait are you also against paying for tickets for NJ Transit trains to NYC? In theory an NJ Transit ticket is "paying to be allowed to go somewhere". It's exactl

Wait are you also against paying for tickets for NJ Transit trains to NYC? In theory an NJ Transit ticket is "paying to be allowed to go somewhere". It's exactly analogous - it costs money to keep the trains going, just like it costs money to keep the tunnels going (and to pay for their original construction with bonds, though maybe that's not relevant today). You're not paying for permission to go somewhere; you're paying for all the stuff that needs to happen to make your journey possible in the first place.

ars 2y ago
Most of the cost for NJ Transit is to pay the driver. > just like it costs money to keep the tunnels going No it doesn't. The toll is just rent seeking, it's not used to keep the tunnel going. The tunnel costs are just a tiny fraction of the tolls. See: https://www.nj.com/news/2017/12/gwb_jfk_and_ewr_bring_home_the_port_authority_baco.html https://www.nj.com/news/2017/12/gwb_jfk_and_ewr_bring_home_t... (and make sure to distinguish capital costs from operation costs, the article mostly will mention it). It's even worse in some ways because this is basically a jobs program for NY/NJ, they could automate a lot of stuff that isn't because the unions won't let: https://unionlabel.org/2022/08/02/twu-fighting-back-against-automation/ https://unionlabel.org/2022/08/02/twu-fighting-back-against-... The unions also control the unbelievably expensive construction costs from the first article I linked. This is why I called it a cash grab, because that's what it is.
- returningfory2 2y ago
  > Most of the cost for NJ Transit is to pay the driver. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you actually claiming that a majority of NJ Transit costs are paying bus and train drivers?