re [1]: you are right - they are the holders of the active substance (which is non-existent) so their effects are going to be the only ones. There are more such

re [1]: you are right - they are the holders of the active substance (which is non-existent) so their effects are going to be the only ones. There are more such substances, starting with water. re [2]: would you have some examples? For the record, I hate homeopathy with all my soul and actively fought it for years because of their unscientific claims. There were claims that were UFO-like (quantum field effects on substance energy - pick your own random words) or backed by idiots who made a science out of it (starting with Nature which published Bonaventure's idiocies and shown that they are a crappy journal like some many others). But I do not have anything handy that would show deception (as in lying)