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War between Russia and NATO would look so much different than the Ukraine war though. For one thing, Russia almost certainly wouldn't be as restrained with wha
by _heimdall 2y ago
War between Russia and NATO would look so much different than the Ukraine war though.
For one thing, Russia almost certainly wouldn't be as restrained with what targets its going after or the tactics they use. The Kremlin has to be aware that they can win a war of attrition here, especially if they can lean in to erode western support for Ukraine.
With both the wars in Ukraine and Gaza it seems like many observers have forgotten just how bad wars can get. We're counting deaths in Gaza by the thousands, and though military deaths in Ukraine have been estimated into the hundreds of thousands for both sides, civilian casualties are almost nonexistent.
- ajuc 2y agoIf we responded in 2008 or 2014 like we responded in 2022 - there wouldn't be any more russian agressions. Instead we let them think they will win easily. The easiest way to avoid further wars in Europe is to help Ukraine win quickly.
- _heimdall 2y agoWell that's a whole other ball of wax. I was always extremely frustrated with the American response to Russia's invasion of Crimea. When the Russians made clear it wasn't them entering Ukraine, we should have gotten them on the phone to confirm and make them aware that we have bombers in the air scrambled to hit all invading forces that have crossed the border. We also would have to follow through with that threat, Obama's red line with Syria was a pointless mess that just made us weaker. If Russia really wouldn't claim the invading force, who would say we were out of line for helping Ukraine defend their soverign borders from an invading paramilitary force?